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SeanDezart

SeanDezart

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As the lost blue MPV in cars said "don't need a may - got the GPS" !

Chris - wrong question !

I laughed Skiddy but I know it was hard - I knew Mandy as well and you and Jak took it to higher levels !

But whatever happened to the "Back to Basics" theme......?
 
STEVE BURNS

STEVE BURNS

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SKiddell said:
As you can tell the 4 years on the job has left me mentally scarred and needing tablets twice a day.
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Jokingly compared to me you had it easy a hell of a lot of people had pcs when you were doing it
Just imagine scraps of handwritten paper mostly and sometimes an occasional typewritten article no spell checker no emails so people could use that to send just the old fashioned snail mail and the time spent on the phone to people pleading with them for some sort of write up on something was unbeleivable

Agree with you it was a shit of a job and it left me on tablets a lot longer than you

And boy was I the most hated person in the club when I brought up that we needed to scrap the magazine or go broke in two years and that was with membership fees at £30


Since dropping the magazine and reducing the fees to £15 for the last 2 years we have had about 1k spare to play with and the committee decided that the best use of that money was for every paid up member to get a calendar as a way of saying thank you for paying your dues

I for one would feel embarrassed if we produced a cheapskate Mag when i remember the quality one that was produced
 
STEVE BURNS

STEVE BURNS

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SeanDezart said:
I laughed Skiddy but I know it was hard - I knew Mandy as well and you and Jak took it to higher levels !
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You know me as well and I did it for a few years it fact it was me who first changed the printers to Blackwells who offered a fantastic design service
 
Dale

Dale

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SeanDezart said:
But whatever happened to the "Back to Basics" theme......?
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Indeed.

Steve, I think the main problem was that the mag was just too damned good. The better something is the more people expect of it.

I still think an annual leaflet, two sheets of A3 folded and stapled in the middle creating a eight paged A4 sized leaflet would suffice. A simple review of the previous year and a preview of the forthcoming year and a few bits and pieces like contact info etc.

Not too complicated, not too expensive, but useful and nice.
 
SeanDezart

SeanDezart

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2fast2z said:
Nope right question, wrong person to answer, any other who want to answer my question
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why answer - what relevance when we're all littered around europe and the world ? You probably earn twice what I earn - but Z is valued higher.........:p but it cost me more to have it valued......:D !
 
SeanDezart

SeanDezart

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STEVE BURNS said:
Jokingly compared to me you had it easy a hell of a lot of people had pcs when you were doing it
Just imagine scraps of handwritten paper mostly and sometimes an occasional typewritten article no spell checker no emails so people could use that to send just the old fashioned snail mail and the time spent on the phone to people pleading with them for some sort of write up on something was unbeleivable

Agree with you it was a shit of a job and it left me on tablets a lot longer than you

And boy was I the most hated person in the club when I brought up that we needed to scrap the magazine or go broke in two years and that was with membership fees at £30


Since dropping the magazine and reducing the fees to £15 for the last 2 years we have had about 1k spare to play with and the committee decided that the best use of that money was for every paid up member to get a calendar as a way of saying thank you for paying your dues

I for one would feel embarrassed if we produced a cheapskate Mag when i remember the quality one that was produced
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Well we had it tuff !

Anyone who had to edit John arfur Dailey or read through wotsisname from slurrey about who he met and how and what tie he was wearing........gets my vote !

I definitley agree with Dale about a one-off per end of year revue and it not being a step down but a step across - it's different, refreshing - a beer you can savour.....sorry, got sidetracked by Heineken and how much we all get overpaid......anyway, it's an evolvement from nothing that we actually get and stop buying everybody a calender - with the membership turnover that Rob quoted we're probably only 50 that paid full dues at £25.....:smash: !
 
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andy

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SeanDezart said:
I have a complete set from at least the beginning of 1989 with folers and even some black and white ones before that..........wanna buy 'em ?
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No trading with a non subscribed member on here please Sean :lol::lol::lol:
 
STEVE BURNS

STEVE BURNS

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Rob Gaskin said:
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My idea is that everyone pays a small annual fee (£5?) to register which covers Club overheads. We already have money in the bank to cover 'up-front' costs for organising meets.

We then simplify the whole Membership System so that Registration automatically prompts for payment via card or Paypal. We record the minimum info about people and can scrap the database if poss. (not even car details are held unless that can be input on Registration). Can V Bulletin do this and is this how other Clubs operate? People just get a Membership Card.

Our 'old school' members pay £5 by cheque for their Membership Card and they are the only ones who get reminders by post.

Now think about that - I need to get on with my Bathroom DIY work.
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Sorry this is just not viable or financially sound even if you drop the website and forum from the equation you need monies for the membership packs postage membership secs expenses public Liability Insurance to cover for any events that we have no matter how big or small they are all covered trophies etc etc
Mike Feeneys local group charges £7.50 to cover his postage copying and stationary costs so a £5 is a not even an option IMHO
 
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2fast2z

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SeanDezart said:
I have a complete set from at least the beginning of 1989 with folers and even some black and white ones before that..........wanna buy 'em ?
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Nope not from you Sean, i have a feeling you are one of those persons, who is drooling all over the magazines while you are at the shitter.
 
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2fast2z

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SeanDezart said:
why answer - what relevance when we're all littered around europe and the world ? You probably earn twice what I earn - but Z is valued higher.........:p but it cost me more to have it valued......:D !
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Well i earn nothing, so if you are earning half of that, you have to have more money than i in the end.
It might not have any relevance to you, to me it have a huge relevance, trying to understand why we have to belly pick over 2,5£ a year.
I assume you all can see where i'm hedding at, i just need some more answers i have asked in some previous posts sorted out.

Dale, you have some great ideas, i like them.

Sean, you have done quit some thinking, but it's just to complicated what you suggest.

Make it simple !!..............
 
SeanDezart

SeanDezart

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Simple is complete access for paying members only - paying members then benefit 100% of what they put in or not - thier choice and nobody else gets a freebie - is THAT what you want ?

I haven't looked at my club magazines in years, they are in the garage with dust on - maybe I should put them up an ebay - except that somebody did that a couple of years aga and was shot down for profiteering......... ! I don't have scale models or fancy pictures (there's nothing in my house - my wife won't allow it) - all my money goes on the real thing and to drive it !
If you earn nothing, you're either super rich or very poor - the fact that you could consume the value of a packet of cigarettes leads me to think it is the former.

If you're so poor, then sell the Z and put some food on your table. Perhaps that shows that I don't know where you're heading - I wish you'd tell us before I get bored.........!

What answers do you want and I'll try to help out.

Skidden - it was a tongue in cheek statement although I'd prefer a tongue in my wifes' cheek...except that she's gone out for the evening and left me with a bottle of red to lick. I have no time or energy to help the z club when it doesn't want to evolve and therefore be helped.
 
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2fast2z

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The answer is for the commitee and admins to answer, it's a question regarding membership fee and welcome package, scroll back Sean

Sell the Z, i don't even have the founds to put up a ad if i have to pay what you suggest:rolleyes:
 
SeanDezart

SeanDezart

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2fast2z said:
Sell the Z, i don't even have the founds to put up a ad if i have to pay what you suggest:rolleyes:
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Sell the family mate - keep the Z - you only live once ! I'm working on having some made (yes, I'm serious) and if it works out I'll give you a set and make the others pay - you've opened a beautiful can of Heineken...sorry worms (not seeds) and amused me....I also have a bottle of Bordeaux running around inside but I stand by what I say - always have done, I'm no hypocrit.
 
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2fast2z

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Bordeaux, please you have been to colored by living in France, Montegoli Ripasso Valpolicella Classico is what i'm enjoing ATM
But okay if you can get me a Bordeaux as nice as this, then i'm ready to :cheers:

Sell the famely, no way i have to much money in to them and i will never get it back, it's a keeper
 
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