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ZFarm still trading ?
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Yes I did but it was bodged and missing bits. All sorted now more or less and i got some bits back but they were in my opinion incompetent and didn't take care with my freshly restored car. Communication was terrible and you can read about the engine on here. Exhaust installation was a bodge as well. Couldn't make it fit so took to the footwell with a hammer until it did instead of contacting me with options the most obvious being to modify the exhaust. Been super busy so had to put the car on ice for a while but will sort that pretty soon. I wouldn't recommend them for any job no matter how simple and I'm not the only one. I've heard the same from several members. Most are too afraid to post here about their experiences, no idea why.
September 2015
Name and address of petitioner: COLEGIO 67 S.L.CALLE MAR WGEO, 32, 28220 MAJADAJONDA, MADRID
Like I said.....
Sean, please elaborate? someone you know?
SeanDezart
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Nope, I'll get banned.
The Z Club committe members are (I believe) afraid of legal action arising from 'libellous' comments appearing on the pages here.
A lot of us know many stories from several specialists but nothing is 'open' here - 'name and shame' is apparently politically incorrect everywhere now.....lawyers and accountants own our world
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Jhepb1
Well-Known Forum User
Nope, I'll get banned.
The Z Club committe members are (I believe) afraid of legal action arising from 'libellous' comments appearing on the pages here.
A lot of us know many stories from several specialists but nothing is 'open' here - 'name and shame' is apparently politically incorrect everywhere now.....lawyers and accountants own our world
Libel is only libel if it's a lie. That's where the word libel comes from. Those who lie about something like this should be sued. However this is a public forum and therefore the club cannot take responsibility for what people say on it. Only the poster can take responsibility. This is called free speech and as rumour has it quite strongly protected in uk law. Not sure about Europe though.
So whatever you say, as long as it's the truth, you do not require big cahoneys* to say it on a public forum in the UK.
* these appear around puberty.
SeanDezart
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a) Not sure that that is the interpretation here.
b) I thought those were burgers in Pulp Fiction.
c) looking forward to ending puberty spots an' all......one day.
A 'Trip Advisor' type facility would be good for Classic Car services.
People could then share their own personal experiences with a company. As a committee member I hear about issues with suppliers but I don't feel I can report them openly on here no matter what people think.
People could then share their own personal experiences with a company. As a committee member I hear about issues with suppliers but I don't feel I can report them openly on here no matter what people think.
richiep
Club Member
But surely, as the owners (and prospective owners) club forum, we should be able to have open discussion about experiences with those providing services to our community, good or bad? It could obviously help point people in the right direction (as generally good experiences get talked about) - and help others avoid making potentially costly mistakes. By not addressing the bad, we are failing to provide a balanced service to readers of the site, and not helping to hold people to account when they maybe need it.
In this particular case though, the fact that the Z Farm has gone bankrupt relatively under the radar a few months ago sends a clear message about that business. Obviously, we don't know the circumstances (or they aren't public domain) but it clearly means Duncan faces a challenge in rebuilding trust if restarting under another name.
In this particular case though, the fact that the Z Farm has gone bankrupt relatively under the radar a few months ago sends a clear message about that business. Obviously, we don't know the circumstances (or they aren't public domain) but it clearly means Duncan faces a challenge in rebuilding trust if restarting under another name.
SeanDezart
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All good points mate but as we're surely aware, there are many, many Z owners and potentiel buyers that aren't on this forum....having such a 'trip advisor' *corner somewhere obvious on the front page MIGHT do the job but imho should be part of Mr Tenno/Ali's round-up of issues/ideas to address.
*Perhaps tied in with a buyer's guide - something that with the correct search engine placing WILL attract more owners....
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
Yes in an ideal world we should be allowed to post what we like in reason
But remember if the club did get sued whose houses and money could be chased to pay for any claim that was upheld due to a lack of diligence
But no doubt the keyboard lawyers will poo poo that
But I for one am not willing to take the chance
Though allegedly you should be able to use the pm system (as that is what it is meant to be Private) but not the open forum
But remember if the club did get sued whose houses and money could be chased to pay for any claim that was upheld due to a lack of diligence
But no doubt the keyboard lawyers will poo poo that
But I for one am not willing to take the chance
Though allegedly you should be able to use the pm system (as that is what it is meant to be Private) but not the open forum
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
It is sad the way the world is at times now
Sometimes I wonder that it is not the human beings who are the most intelligent beings on the planet
As an aside the club has also always had public Liability insurance in an attempt to cover the organiser just in case something happened at a club meet even if it was just a pub car park meet
Sometimes I wonder that it is not the human beings who are the most intelligent beings on the planet
As an aside the club has also always had public Liability insurance in an attempt to cover the organiser just in case something happened at a club meet even if it was just a pub car park meet
SeanDezart
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So, the PM system would work if, say, someone asks ''what do you think of so and so?" and is answered by PM ?
What if people (read paid-up club-members) use the closed (non-public) part of the forum ?
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
Not a lawyer so not sure
But in my own thoughts would be a pm is allegedly private and a discussion between 2 people and the non public area would still not be private and still be open to many
But in my own thoughts would be a pm is allegedly private and a discussion between 2 people and the non public area would still not be private and still be open to many
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
I believe that you should be safe (but there is surely someone in the club who could advise more professionally) because we use a similar 'closed' section in which to publish commercial magazine articles which otherwise might incur copyright issues !
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
Is not the magazine copyright thing slightly different if it is meant to be for education purposes even though I remember as recent as a couple of years ago speaking to Classic and Sports Car Mag to clarify if it was OK to copy some of their old articles into the members only achieve section and they refused permission to allow us to do it even though some of the articles were quite a few years old and decided it would not be worth the risk at that time
Remember Sean even though it might be in what you may think is a closed section for members only it not secure if someone really wanted to gain access
Remember Sean even though it might be in what you may think is a closed section for members only it not secure if someone really wanted to gain access
SeanDezart
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The way to convince mags is to offer them something - take a look at our welcome page and we publicise their mag with an article in it - just a taster to encourage people to go out and buy it !
Point taken Steve and I'm not knocking but if the 'intention' is not to publicise but merely inform a closed-group', than I think 'that' is how the law would be interpretated.
Worth checking out rather than not doing anything - no ?
datsfun
Club Member
It would only work if the "super privileged" like forum owners or moderators can't access the PM as well?
On another forum I used to frequent, it was pointless sending a PM to a fellow member as the chief moderator read all PM's
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