White 240Z Yorks.

SeanDezart said:
Points taken although said owner is looking to stay as 'Samuri OEM' rather than fit a (imho better) modern kit.....most 'OEM' parts are hard to find these days.

But I'd fit a 200SX box anyday and take the future consequences (of always finding the parts) over redoing a std box and it not lasting 2 years.
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We already know theres no such thing as 'samuri oem'
 
SKiddell said:
And yet the forum bows to the altar of a guy who would gas axe springs and do "porting" work with the head still on the block, and who never wrote down anything except on the back of a fag packet.



Maybe someone will buy your car Jon and never understand the engine mods you have done



A lot of misunderstanding and confusion is down to the 3rd party failing to do any decent research.....in the end, caveat emptor........... you can't fix stupid
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Yeah I'm guilty too - engine mods, custom springs, additional wiring, even modified jets in the carbs. All part of the fun. But potentially offputting or expensive for future owners.
 
franky said:
We already know theres no such thing as 'samuri oem'
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So (imho) why knock your teeth out looking to replace exactly the part on the car which has been overtaken in efficiency since the mid/late '70s ? Cost ?

jonbills said:
But potentially offputting or expensive for future owners.
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You're all assuming that future owners (ie buyers for various reasons but especially those with resale values in mind) are more knowledgeable than those who have modified their cars ?
 
SeanDezart said:
You're all assuming that future owners (ie buyers for various reasons but especially those with resale values in mind) are more knowledgeable than those who have modified their cars ?
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No, just that when you're acquiring a car - whether to cherish and have maintained by 'specialists' or to tinker with yourself - it might be preferable to start with a car that conforms to FSMs and other documentation, and to the extent that parts are available, you can just buy them and they'll probably fit.
So for a modded car, if it is well done, and it comes with comprehensive documentation on the changes and details of what and where to buy parts from, and engineering drawings of things that need to be customised then it would be equally attractive starting point.
But I don't suppose too many of us keep that level of documentation. I know I don't.
 
jonbills said:
No, just that when you're acquiring a car - whether to cherish and have maintained by 'specialists' or to tinker with yourself - it might be preferable to start with a car that conforms to FSMs and other documentation, and to the extent that parts are available, you can just buy them and they'll probably fit.
So for a modded car, if it is well done, and it comes with comprehensive documentation on the changes and details of what and where to buy parts from, and engineering drawings of things that need to be customised then it would be equally attractive starting point.
But I don't suppose too many of us keep that level of documentation. I know I don't.
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Agreed.....and I was referring to the collective 'you' and not just....you. English can be so vague sometimes - I suppose I should have said 'you all are' : 'vous' if you prefer to be precise.:thumbs:

Not selling mine so I don't give a damn 'cos when it does go into other hands, I won't be around to worry. ;)
 
jonbills said:
..........................So for a modded car, if it is well done, and it comes with comprehensive documentation on the changes and details of what and where to buy parts from, and engineering drawings of things that need to be customised then it would be equally attractive starting point.
But I don't suppose too many of us keep that level of documentation. I know I don't.
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When I sold my 'old' car I provided the new owner with a 6 page (A4 Word) document detailing all the mods and why, weaknesses, maintenance suggestions, future mods to consider, etc etc and all receipts. I also listed specialists and useful contacts. If you buy a car from me you know what you are getting (warts and all).

For example: ...there is more work needed to the body than a casual glance may suggest... This was then followed with extensive wording. The new owner was very appreciative and still remains a good friend.

When I look on here at what some 'novices to Zs' have bought and what they have found it's an eye opener!
 
Rob Gaskin said:
When I look on here at what some 'novices to Zs' have bought and what they have found it's an eye opener!
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With respect though, most of said novices have bought off ebay and if there's no fresh blood to buy and own behind us, the scene and cars' interest could wane and die.

They do have the advantage of almost instant aide and advice via the net compared to most of us when we bagan.....:)
 
To get this Thread back on track:

Why hasn't the seller a Z Club member even commented on his car?

Worrying for the Club?
 
Rob Gaskin said:
Why hasn't the seller a Z Club member even commented on his car?

Worrying for the Club?
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Why should it be worrying ? The seller has obviously noted the discussion but since the auction is still running declines to comment (out of respect for the future buyer ?).
 
I've driven the car in question, and can vouch for it being an absolute peach.

Really beautifully done. Would recommend it to anyone.
 
Rob Gaskin said:
To get this Thread back on track:

Why hasn't the seller a Z Club member even commented on his car?

Worrying for the Club?
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I find it worrying for the Club because I would have thought that if a Club member is selling a car then an owner's club would be the first place to offer the car. Therefore there must be a reason not to do that.

People have spoken to me and said that if they put their car on the site it would get 'ripped into'. Therefore they don't want to set themselves up for that. Also perhaps there is the perception that Z Club members don't have the money or that an 'investor' may pay more.

Speaking from experience I have put 3 cars in the site 'Classifieds' and I honestly can't remember 1 single enquiry from the club. My 350Z with Nissan fitted new engine sold 5 years ago for less than £7k. My 240Z well known to the Club and a 'diamond' sold for £6.5k and my current 370Z was negotiable at £15k a while ago (and the cheapest in the country) got no response and yet it is a 'genuine' great car. I did have enquiries from Pistonheads and in fact I turned one sale down because I was unsure about the buyer. My other two sold on Pistonheads.
 
that if they put their car on the site it would get 'ripped into'
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Would you want the opposite......the often sickening backslapping and trite comments of "wow thats great mate" when its clearly not........thats more worrying as it is clear evidence of a hackneyed and lacklustre audience.

Lets not get confused as to the role of a forum, its a place to openly discuss and debate without fear of excessive censorship or edit.

Edit.....Youre right Sean....back on topic
 
SeanDezart said:
Currently £22600 and a bargain compared to this : http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C639012
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Sean, it's not a bargain yet, the Reserve hasn't been met, so you're not buying it for 22k.

3 1/2 days to go, and it won't be until the last 6 hrs or less before we see if it makes the Reserve. Tuesday night you'll be watching the screen, cursor over the Bid Now button, a sweaty finger twitching to Left Click ..................Oh and drinking Vin Rouge and munching garlic ;)



As an aside, does anyone know the car Sean has linked to, looks very good?
 
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MikeB said:
As an aside, does anyone know the car Sean has linked to, looks very good?
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Yes, again a Z Club member's car.

I was invited to have a look and I was 'blown away' by it's condition and attention to detail - FANTASTIC!

It is the best standard car I have ever seen. It has been restored buy a person who got carried away and was obsessive.

So I got 'blown away' and he got 'carried away'. :)
 
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