Price Guide

Jhepb1

Well-Known Forum User
Someone may have said this already, but in these guides showing a value in red usually signifies the newly updated ones. So, the other listings in black are older values which simply haven't been reappraised yet?
 

uk66fastback

Club Member
These mags should be updating these values at least every other issue ... And being correct. That 260z £11k price is beyond poor ...
 

chrisvega

Well-Known Forum User


August 2016 edition of 'Classic Cars' just landed on the doorstep.
Look at their current valuations - updated and supposedly of the moment as they are claiming these are price movers - on the up !

Mint 240Z is £ 13,500
Mint 260Z is £ 9,500

Absolute joke........
Who makes up these figures and who allows such b/s to be printed ?
 

uk66fastback

Club Member
And the concours price is HALF what the orange and blue ones are on eBay currently ...

I'd think the mags were correct if I was buying so I'd take them along to any viewing! :D
 

johnymd

Club Member
Classic cars are a funny old market and often very volatile. I'm always looking at 240z (sorry Alan but that's what it says on all my log books) values and trying to work out if they are going up or down. I think in the last 10 years they have gone up 4 fold. I bought my blue RHD UK 240 in 2006 for 3k and in it was left in its original state that I bought it in, it would probably sell for 12k now. That's for a solid but extensively repaired car with no MOT or working brakes or engine. Basically a solid project car (which is what a large percentage of buyers want). The figure listed of 4k for a rough car would require over 10k of body/structural work and another 6k to get back on the road. 7.5k will not get you a "good" car but a moneypit that may look good initially.

When have these figures ever been correct. Just accept they are wrong.
 

Ped

Club Member
Here is what Practical Classics says in the latest guide... (highest price is 'Concourse/Dealer')

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Ped

Club Member
Way, way behind the times and the buying public !

I guess you are right on the 240z side of things. I have see the 280zx 2+2 ads on ebay and they can be asking way higher than the guide price eg: £8k, but not sure how many have actually sold at these prices? Bear in mind that on 'How Many Left' they only show 35 x 280zx (2015 figures) on the road in the UK, so there is not much data to go on. If they were selling at these high prices it should be easy to spot?

Here is a recent one that looked to be a nice car. They were asking £7250 for it, but it actually sold for £5600. So I would say on the 280zx's it looks about right to me. Not sure if others agree???

Here is what the mag says...
"Estimated values of classic cars, along with build dates, engine capacities, 0-60mph acceleration times, average fuel consumption figures and spare parts availability – the Practical Classics Price Guide is updated every four weeks.

Prices in this guide are researched from several sources, including clubs,


auctions, the trade and advertisements online and in print. These prices are reviewed and updated every issue. Our C/D rating is a guide to what you can pay (£) for the best examples of a model, a concours car or something from a dealer."
 
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SacCyclone

Club Member
I belong to Hagerty Insurance and use their price guide often. They constantly update it using auction house numbers etc.

These are of course LHD US cars. #1 cars are in the museum, #2 are excellent examples, #3 are good looking driver cars, and #4 are needing work like paint, chrome, interior but otherwise run and drive.

I will list some #2, #3, #4 cars because that is what we drive and aspire to.

1970 Zed- #2 $34,600....#3 $16,000.....#4 $8000.....I think #3 is closer to $20,000 and #4 closer to $12,000

1972 Zed- #2 $33,400....#3 $16,000...and #4 $7200....all pretty close I think.

1973 Zed- #2 $33,400....#3 $16,000...and #4 $7200....maybe a little high as the 72's bring a bit more

1974 Zed (260) #2 $15,100...#3 $7800....#4 $4500....low by %40 to %50 I think. I would buy #2 cars all day long at $15,000.
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
We are all 'the club' though Franky, you included. ;)
That's a point Dale (albeit he's not a club but a forum member) but a petty one where you should be above that mate.

A guide has been produced - let's see it please as a base-starting point.
 

Rob Gaskin

Treasurer
Staff member
Site Administrator
................A guide has been produced - let's see it please as a base-starting point.

Sean I can't find it! Does anyone have a copy of the Classic Car Weekly it was in?

Anyway things have moved on a bit re prices. At the end of the day they are a 'guide' based on what similar cars have sold for (bit like houses). You advertise at what you think is a bit above the market and see what happens.

Classic cars are much harder to value than modern cars like my 370Z. Also the figures are more volatile and sometimes based on greed more than value.
 

chrisvega

Well-Known Forum User
Classic cars are much harder to value than modern cars like my 370Z. Also the figures are more volatile and sometimes based on greed more than value.

Well said Rob.

Also condition is very subjective.

I have never seen a 'concours' S30/240Z/260Z in the metal or in an advert so we can discount them from any discussion on price, if they exist they will be rarely for sale.
When I say 'concours' I mean a car that would score 90 points+ at show
 
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