Toyo TR1s or other road 225/50x15 tyres

STEVE BURNS

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SeanDezart

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MikeB

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Sean

A quick scan of the big internet suppliers in UK indicates that the Toyo and the Nanking are the two options, there don't appear to be others in the size you want. So pick another size or toss a coin between to two :)
 
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Bit Worried :unsure:. 'Fast sweeping bends' in the UK are (mainly) 60 mph. Pretty much anything should be ok. Track is clearly different. Perhaps a distinction in the post should be made? Public Highways are not race race tracks.
 
Rob Gaskin

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SeanDezart said:
So, still looking for a decent ROAD (wet) tyre please...
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My comment would be that Continentals usually perform really well in group tests especially in the wet tests.

I have Continentals on my blue car.

They do tend to be expensive I know but....

Nankangs - I've always assumed that they are rubbish budget tyres from China. :eek:
 
SeanDezart

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Stockdale said:
Bit Worried :unsure:. 'Fast sweeping bends' in the UK are (mainly) 60 mph. Pretty much anything should be ok. Track is clearly different. Perhaps a distinction in the post should be made? Public Highways are not race race tracks.
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Thanks.

I only ever quoted road tyres...and these (for me) would double up as wet-track tyres.

I have a second set of lighter wheels upion which I'll fit semi-slick tyres, probably R888s but I remain open minded and that subject is one to be discussed elsewhere please.

I want comfortable, quiet-ish, wet-handling road tyres....quite a few have quoted semi-slicks - not what I want or asked for in advice.:eek:
 
SeanDezart

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Rob Gaskin said:
My comment would be that Continentals usually perform really well in group tests especially in the wet tests.

I have Continentals on my blue car.

They do tend to be expensive I know but....

Nankangs - I've always assumed that they are rubbish budget tyres from China. :eek:
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Taiwan, not China.

http://www.nankang-tyre.com/home.php?fn=eur/about (50years in the business so one might assume that some customers have been satisfied....)

http://www.nankangtyre.co.uk/

The only 225/50x15 Continentals I've found are nailed snow tyres :D

http://www.123pneus.fr/cgi-bin/rsho...smFahrzeugart=ALL&details=Ordern&typ=R-281738
 
Ian

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The R1R's are amazing in the dry, pretty close to being a semi slick. I can't comment on how they are in the wet as I don't drive my car in the wet, I don't imagine any tyre will put down 490lbft in the wet very well though. Going from the tread pattern it does look like it would evacuate water well.

But none of this matters because the p****s at Toyo have stopped making R1R's, which I'm gutted about. Next tyres will be Yokos.




Uniroyal Rain Sports are always getting good reviews as a wet use tyre and are good the dry also.
 
Rob Gaskin

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Ian said:
Uniroyal Rain Sports are always getting good reviews as a wet use tyre and are good the dry also.
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I have Uniroyal RainExpert tyres on my 110 red car - Sean they are good in the wet, very cheap, quiet and comfortable but you would never have mine on your car - however they may have something to suit you. I ran my earlier 240Z on Uniroyals for quite a while and they were fine until I got more serious.
 
tel240z

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been supplyi g quite a few of these rainsport 3s very good tyre A rated traction wet, probably dont do them in 225/50/15 though

 
MikeB

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Sean

Can I ask why you are so concerned about sidewall strength for the wet weather tyre?

The "wet" tyre will only give a benefit over the R888 when there is standing water on the track (ie puddles and water running across it), at that point you are not going to be putting the side loads into the tyre that require the same level of sidewall stability as in the dry. Frankly, if it is the GT sort of machine you are describing then in my sprinting experience a good road tyre will suffice. The Toyos were the tyre of choice from that category of tyre (RAC List 1A) for those track events.
 
SeanDezart

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Now this is more like it - A and B performance - superior wet handling AND obviously quieter - you guys know why I assume ? We apply the same principal to 'quiet' road surfaces we lay !

Ian said:
Uniroyal Rain Sports are always getting good reviews as a wet use tyre and are good the dry also.
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Can only find 205/70s :

http://www.1001pneus.fr/Pneus/21280090/UNIROYAL-RAINSPORT-3-SUV-FR-205-70-15-96-H-ETE-4X4.html

Rob Gaskin said:
I have Uniroyal RainExpert tyres on my 110 red car - Sean they are good in the wet, very cheap, quiet and comfortable but you would never have mine on your car - however they may have something to suit you. I ran my earlier 240Z on Uniroyals for quite a while and they were fine until I got more serious.
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Can only find 60 profile :

https://www.centralepneus.fr/pneu-auto/uniroyal/rainexpert/225-60-r15-96v-116345
 
SeanDezart

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MikeB said:
Sean

Can I ask why you are so concerned about sidewall strength for the wet weather tyre?

The "wet" tyre will only give a benefit over the R888 when there is standing water on the track (ie puddles and water running across it), at that point you are not going to be putting the side loads into the tyre that require the same level of sidewall stability as in the dry. Frankly, if it is the GT sort of machine you are describing then in my sprinting experience a good road tyre will suffice. The Toyos were the tyre of choice from that category of tyre (RAC List 1A) for those track events.
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Good points and I've driven on damp to wet-ish tracks with the R888s - fabulous except for those obvious puddles and running water across the track.

I'm almost convinced to go for the Toyo T1Rs until I heard that they're sidewall strength is not up to the stresses applied.....so if I'm to have 'wobbly' tyres, why not go for a better wet performing one as these are 'C' rated !
 
MikeB

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Sean

Would those be the stresses applied in the dry?

Have you been informed they are "wobbly" in the wet?
 
SeanDezart

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Thanks Tel - it appears to be closer to the Toyo R1R wheras I'm looking for a more 'reguler' road tyre.

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Sean

Would those be the stresses applied in the dry?

Have you been informed they are "wobbly" in the wet?
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In all honestly and respectively - probably 'yes' and 'no'.

I'm just put off by the poor 'C' rating - 'B' would eliminate my hesitation.:eek:

Anyone trashed these in the wet yet ?
 
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