Rally replica on Ebay

[SeanDezart]

It might be, as you rightly say, Rob, a good car. But has it got all the trick bits ( for that, read 'expensive' bits ), and the strengthened Bodyshell work, etc., to make it a proper Stage Rally Car build ?

And I'm waiting for Skiddy's comments about the '290bhp' Engine....and his views on 'American Horsepower' ratings.

And just for reference, the very nice Replica Works car of Brad Gottleib which was built a couple of years ago by Greenwood Motorsport, cost him well into a six-figure final build. And that is six figures - without any dots in the middle....

Fcuk - have to agree with you Duncan ! And 6 figures doesn't shock me, we've alreadu seen those kinda numbers from Star Motorsport !
And to think that James upset the 'family' when he spent only £40K and £70K on his road cars......... !

 

[Wyn]

It's more of a tribute car than a replica - no ?.........

"Tribute"

[Spoken]
Long time ago me and my brother Kyle, we was hitchhikin' down a long and lonesome road.
All of a sudden, there shined a shiny datsun... in the middle... of the road.
And it said:
[Sung]
"Play the best song in the world, or I'll eat your soul." (soul)
[Spoken]
Well me and Kyle, we looked at each other,
and we each said... "Okay."
[Sung]
And we played the first thing that came to our heads,
Just so happened to be,
The Best Song in the World, it was The Best Song in the World.

Look into my eyes and it's easy to see
One and one make two, two and one make three,
It was destiny.
Once every hundred-thousand years or so,
When the sun doth shine and the moon doth glow
And the grass doth grow...

Needless to say, the datsun was stunned.
Whip-crack went his engine,
And the thing went bang.
He asked us: "(snort) Be you angels?"
And we said, "Nay. We are but men."
Rock!
Ahhh, ahhh, ahhh-ah-ah,
Ohhh, whoah, ah-whoah-oh!

This is not The Greatest Song in the World, no.

This is just a Z tribute.

 

[Rob Gaskin]

I'm not saying it's a decent rally car, I'm just saying it might be a nice modified Z.

I personally don't like 'fake' cars and 'dressed up' replicas but in it's own way if it's a good shell, engine, brakes, wheels, cage etc then it could be a good base for a rally car or track car.

Just thought all the criticism was harsh.

 

[Alphabettispaghetti]

they've changed the start price from 24k no reserve to what it is now with one?!

 

[SeanDezart]

I'm not saying it's a decent rally car, I'm just saying it might be a nice modified Z.

I personally don't like 'fake' cars and 'dressed up' replicas but in it's own way if it's a good shell, engine, brakes, wheels, cage etc then it could be a good base for a rally car or track car.

Just thought all the criticism was harsh.

Frankly Rob - you're not saying or contributing anything :

"might be "

"could be"

For heavens' sake man, make a bold statement and stand by it ie :it's a cheap tarted up, over-priced fake copy or :
it's a great car to have some fun which has already had the biggest expence thrown at it - bargain rally debut !

For info, all criticism is 'harsh', mere observations though are purely factual !

Now, back to being "wicked" :

Personally, I'm not shocked at a bolt-in roll-cage but a big engine and Wilwoods won't help it pass it's FIA passport so why not simply weld it in ?

 

[morbias]

Well how can Rob say it IS a nice modified Z without even seeing it in the metal? lol

It might not have any floors for all we know! From the pictures it does look in good nick, but it's a shame about the cheapo seats and wheel, and possibly cheapo roll cage. And the fact someone has stuck some stickers all over it - remove those and it could be a nice road car.

If it was destined to be a rally car, why would you not strip out the interior?

 

[Rob Gaskin]

they've changed the start price from 24k no reserve to what it is now with one?!

Well if they are after that sort of money a serious rally competitior would be better buying Tony Fall's old car.

Frankly Rob .... you're not contributing anything

Well how can Rob say it IS a nice modified Z without even seeing it in the metal

Exactly!

 

[Nigel Brook]

Being in the process for some time of building a REAL rally car I might just comment on this at a later date.Hope he gets his £24k though.

 

[Rob Gaskin]

Being in the process for some time of building a REAL rally car I might just comment on this at a later date.Hope he gets his £24k though.

Be careful Nigel, you're in danger of not contributing anything

Good to hear from you again anyway

 

[SKiddell]

And I'm waiting for Skiddy's comments about the '290bhp' Engine....and his views on 'American Horsepower' ratings.....

HP ehhh, the most ambiguous, misused and misunderstood measurement ever devised and never more so than by uncle sams brigade.
It can't be a Rebello engine as it would be 390 HP

I can't access Ebay from work so I can't see if there is any engine specification listed.

 

[rallymanDP]

OK Guys, I've got the 'real deal' on this one for us all to ponder on.
Not from the current Owner, I might add, but from someone who has seen the car up close & personal, so to speak.

This is in fact the 240Z that William Galliers had in stock about a year ago - some of you may remember seeing it on E-bay.The asking price was about £17k, which with the big alloy wheels and Rebello Engine, was about right. Paintwork was red over the original Green - showing in some areas where it was flaking off - and otherwise a standard LHD car, well molested by some of our Yank friends over the years.

So.... the Buyer over the last year or so has :-
painted the Bonnet Black & added some stripes
Had a Rollcage fitted ( and it was a decent Bolt-in Job, by the way, Sean )
Replaced the wheels with the cheaper Minilites
Replaced the Seats & Harnesses with some cheaper ones
Took out the expensive Stereo
And that's about it, as far as I can see.

And Hey Presto ! A Rally car.......I think not.

And marked the asking price up by around £7k.

 

[rallymanDP]

And to answer Morbias' question about why he didn't remove the Carpets -
what do you think you will find if he did ?

One guess only, please.

 

[SeanDezart]

And to answer Morbias' question about why he didn't remove the Carpets -
what do you think you will find if he did ?

One guess only, please.

I thought that it was advertised as rust-free....I suppose it didn't say f/g free..... ?
I'm all for bolt-in cages if one can't weld 'em in and pass scrutineering - I have an SD one waiting.

 

[SeanDezart]

ps : THAT was a contribution (thanks Duncan) not some old prattle without any info to back it up !

 

[Albrecht]

And marked the asking price up by around £7k.

What "asking price" is that then?

All I ( still ) see is an auction starting bid value of £15k, with no bids made as yet, and 'Reserve Not Met'.

If he doesn't sell it on ebay then - at the very least - he's got people talking about the car and has already got some pretty useful feedback. He also appears to have some *useful* spares ( like an RHD car...... ) that could be part of a deal.

Good luck to him I say. There's still too many people dreaming about getting a good solid 240Z for around £4k and he can ask what he wants. I hope he gets back close to what he's spent, whatever that is.

 

[Albrecht]

And to answer Morbias' question about why he didn't remove the Carpets -
what do you think you will find if he did ?

One guess only, please.

Here's my one guess: Good original factory sheetmetal?

Only guessing, though.





The Works cars had carpets, by the way. Special carpets, but carpets nonetheless....

 

[Albrecht]

By the way, just in case anyone's wondering:

The period colour picture of the Works car in the auction description is not actually the Kallstrom car on the '73 RAC. It's a different car......

 

[SeanDezart]

I hope he gets back close to what he's spent, whatever that is.

Why is that my Count ?

This car is still a long way from being FIA homologable.

Is it because you want higher Z values seen and believed ? Or more Zs in competition for a higher profile or........?

Good luck to the speculator but he naively doesn't realise how small is the Z world.........although I know that there is another layer to Zs in the UK than we see here on this club forum.

 

[SeanDezart]

By the way, just in case anyone's wondering:

The period colour picture of the Works car in the auction description is not actually the Kallstrom car on the '73 RAC. It's a different car......

So it's a complete con then ? And YOU support this as a replica ?

 

[Rob Gaskin]

Sean, read my input, then your later input - that is virtually what I said!

I'm not saying it's a decent rally car, I'm just saying it might be a nice modified Z.

I personally don't like 'fake' cars and 'dressed up' replicas but in it's own way if it's a good shell, engine, brakes, wheels, cage etc then it could be a good base for a rally car or track car.

For heavens' sake man, make a bold statement and stand by it ie :it's a cheap tarted up, over-priced fake copy or :
it's a great car to have some fun which has already had the biggest expence thrown at it - bargain rally debut !

Then you come back with this outburst:

ps : THAT was a contribution (thanks Duncan) not some old prattle without any info to back it up !

Your aggression, rudeness and arrogance amaze me at times. End of!