Goodbye - and thanks for all the fish !

Good points 280REZ and finally someone talking purely about having sent a message to Westminster and not Brussels. Personally I wasn't surprised but remain even so, very touched by the result.

Status - the venhemence of your language shocks me but also the " our England and dem others bit" which imho probably started the populace of the 3x other countries whinging in the first place as not only London but England looks after itself first.
Agree upon with regards to Thatcher - started well but anyone who relies upon a war to ger relected or into power (Bush...Churchill) needs to be treated with great suspicion - remember the euphoria in '82 with the Argy-Bargy ?

Will London become the new 'Free city of Danzig' ?:rolleyes:


Further interesting reading :

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/britains-great-divide/

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/brexit-political-awakening-young-people/
 
I'd love to see your first paragraph happen - really - believe me no sassing.:thumbs:

bluejon said:
I look forward to the EU coming to an end and being replaced by a free trade area, with free movement of labour for continental countries. Both of these things can exist without any parliament or seven hundreds of MEPs, various flavours of European Court, a president, 14 vice presidents or commissioners, no European Council or the Council of the EU (no I don't know either) and no official anthem (yes there is one). NB, there may be a banking entity to manage the euro, assuming that survives it's growing crisis.

Bring on simplicity ... liberte, egalite, fraternite. Why has France lost sight of those ideals?
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I've found a video which demonstrates why :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ng-sight-of-sheep-herding-in-New-Zealand.html

Oh, and we need another revolution here against what is known here as 'the political class'.
Here is an example of what it costs us for just one (ex) post...although there are still 3x living ex-Presidents:

http://www.tootlafrance.ie/features/the-cost-of-ex-presidents

I'll give you a wry laugh on Sunday - my uncle :

https://www.google.fr/search?q=gast...rome..69i57.4510j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
 
Glad we agree on a few things Sean baby but to be honest you are an EX pat that decided to move to wot you feel a better life was to be had by yourself and family and I hope it did but at the end of the day you and all the others that went down that route have no rights to vote over here,you made yer bed so lie in it is the saying,it was a fair and democratic vote so we have to abide by the majorities wishes that's why our elders fought for our future so we could be free as said before,so all you lot that wanted to stay in,get over it and get on with it and stop winging because at least we might get some of our jobs back and some of our identity
 
You also misunderstand my point here so I'll spell it out clearer : the vote was NOT about residents voting wether to stay in or out of the EU but Brits deciding - yes ? All about taking back our country from the EU rules and laws - yes ? So why were non-Brits (for whom the UK is NOT their country) allowed to vote whereas British-born subjects weren't ? THAT is my beef, NOT the result and why I have signed the petition for a revote, again NOT the desire to change a truly democratic decision but in order that there is one from which no-one can walk away with regret and also one which doesn't divide my country as is the case now. I am an expat yes, but the decision from this vote profoundly affects my normal life here (rsident and work permit, and now no election rights whatsoever in my region or community because I'll no longer be an EU citizen and I was undemocratically excluded from that decison process - I don't understand why you are so blasé over all that you've voted for (your right to decide) was denied me ! The whole process has been made too emotional - people don't brutally kill others in Britain over a vote for chrissakes and I therefore believe that there should be a revote, truly rationally taken understanding ALL the consequences of leaving and not just with a 'oh, it'll be alright, the sun still shines (or the rain still pours in your case :) ) and we'll just tighten our belts and hug each other' - the UK will not be united by this vote - au contraire ! bises xx

Here, as an EU citizen, I may vote in the European elections, reginal and local - I may NOT vote in the general election unless I become a French citizen. If I follow the Brexit vote logic, I should be able to because I am resident and pay my taxes here BUT at the same time, France (rightly) says that if I want a say in France's future, I should make the decision to be 100% part of France....which also obviously protects France from immigrants swarming in and taking over :) ! So why should non-Brits have had the opportunity over me in my own country to decide yours and Mine (and not theirs) future ?



http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/06/i-want-my-country-back
 
That's the ironically most close minded alarmist and long winded piece of **** I've read so far.
 
At the end of the day what will be will be, all we need to do is put the Great back into Great Britain now we are free. Wonder who our leader will be, just hope it is somebody with just a glimmer of common sense.
 
samuri-240 said:
At the end of the day what will be will be, all we need to do is put the Great back into Great Britain now we are free. Wonder who our leader will be, just hope it is somebody with just a glimmer of common sense.
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Shouldn't you have a say in who your new leader should be ? Would that not be democratic - you know - taking back your sovereignty and all ?
He resigns, there should be a general election - surely ?:confused:
 
SeanDezart said:
Shouldn't you have a say in who your new leader should be ? Would that not be democratic - you know - taking back your sovereignty and all ?
He resigns, there should be a general election - surely ?:confused:
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Yes we should but WHO can we trust anyway ? Atleast the one who does strange things with pigs heads is out of the way ! We need somebody with a correct mind abit like mine :D
 
Maybe I have it wrong but I thought you voted for a particular party and its policies to be in power and not the person you wanted to be Prime Minster
 
OK, I tried hard but can’t resist it any longer, some thoughts on random nonsense. Never thought I’d ever agree with (most) of Sean’s posts, but hey ho.
Samuri240 – “all we need to do is put the Great back into Great Britain now we are free”
- ‘Great Britain’ already has ‘Great’ in it. See, it’s right there at the start.
Al Douglas – “If the scots voted for independence I'd probably move out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
- Best start packing then.
280REZ – “this will be a great opportunity for the UK to go forward and achieve greatness again.One things for sure those in power will have to treat the electorate with a bit of respect from now on.”
- Clearly not a student of politics and history then? I did like that respectful stuff about £350 million a week for the NHS/education/whatever that’s now been withdrawn. And the one about reducing migration to the tens of thousands that the leavers have already said you all ‘misunderstood’. Respect to that (I’m making that weird hand with little and index finger signal thing now).
Bluejon – “Hurrah for the butcher in Barnstaple now selling sausages in pounds instead of kilos. I look forward to being able to put a gallon of petrol in the Z rather than 4.545 litres. There's nothing wrong with a pound of sausages.”
- Unless you’re a vegetarian or vegan of course. Did they all vote Remain? Let’s hope they ‘get over it’ and start eating animals soon. We could always force them I guess.
“And in other news ... the FTSE100 closed higher than it was last week”
- Breaking news – we ‘ain’t left yet.
“Latest that caught my attention are those km signs that now run the entire length of the M40”
- I know, who cares about the trivial stuff like house prices, economic development and racism. As long as I see mile markers and not kilometres when I’m out in my Japanese Z I’m a happy Brit. Sorry, Englishman. Don’t want to be accused of ruining all your English freedoms.
Status – “that's why our elders fought for our future so we could be free as said before,so all you lot that wanted to stay in,get over it and get on with it and stop winging because at least we might get some of our jobs back and some of our identity”
- I know, I lost my identity about 1972 but I’m feeling much more, well, British is it? No, sorry, Engerlish - something like that. As for jobs, in two years I’m looking forward to strawberry picking in Yorkshire in the summer and fish processing in Peterhead in the winter. This time next year, we’ll all be millionaires. Well, us English. Not the Doris’s or Welsh. Or irish. Obviously.
“us English we don’t need the Irish,Scottish,Germans,French and co,it's them that really wants us”
- Of course it is. us English with our great Great Britain and massive empire on which the Sun newspaper never sets. They’ll all be sorry. Probably.
“The thing is us English wasn't asked if we want to keep the Scottish when they had the vote last year,is that fair?”
- No, clearly not fair. I guess you’re in favour of giving the other 27 EU countries a vote on whether us Engerlish should leave the EU then? I mean, it’s only fair. Apples and pears, the Queen’s got a luvverly smile, pearly kings and queens and so on, (yawn) and so on and so forth ad infinitum (that’s Latin, not English, sorry it won’t happen again).
Let's end with this, then you can all tell me 'it's a long time ago, forget about it'. But before you do, remember the late, great Bill Hicks- 'yeah, stop going on about Jesus then, it was along time ago, forget about it.'
Winston Churchill – “We must all turn our backs upon the horrors of the past. We must look to the future. We cannot afford to drag forward across the years that are to come the hatreds and revenges which have sprung from the injuries of the past.

If Europe is to be saved from infinite misery, and indeed from final doom, there must be an act of faith in the European family and an act of oblivion against all the crimes and follies of the past.

Can the free peoples of Europe rise to the height of these resolves of the soul and instincts of the spirit of man? Under and within that world concept, we must re-create the European family in a regional structure called, it may be, the United States of Europe.”
http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/astonish.html

Sounds a bit like Johnny Foreigner this bloke, doesn’t he? Bet he didn't help out in the war, did he? Oh, hang on a minute ...

Respectfully,

Phil.



 
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Maybe I have it wrong but I thought you voted for a particular party and its policies to be in power and not the person you wanted to be Prime Minster
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Quite correct. We are not a presidential state. Further though, the referendum was not a party election. Vote Leave was a campaign, nothing more, and cross-party. Remain was also cross party. We have to disconnect Cameron departing and needing to be replaced from Brexit itself. The new PM doesn't necessarily have to be a Brexiter. Great discussion on this on Question Time just a few minutes ago. A general election is not what we need right now, not least because the majority of MPs are against leaving. We need strong, experienced leaders to come in who can carry out the majority will of the nation and negotiate strongly, even a government of national unity for the foreseeable period.
 
You put a smile upon MY face.:D

It's what I miss most from the UK, the sense of humour - the silliness, dressing up 'Monty Python, the I'll do what I want (respecting others) and not be self-conscious.....people in Europe (and the French especially) in general are too serious.

But Churchill ? Go read this and come back and discuss....:

https://www.google.fr/search?q=hitl...8#q=hitler+churchill+and+the+unnecessary+war+

Which also teaches us that the USA is NOT our best mate but the bloke next door who can't wait for you to sell your car, buy a bicycle and be eco-friendly (following his advice) so he can swoop your girlfriend into his retro-look Ford Mustang and shag her senseless !
 
The non Brits Sean pay taxes here and have British passports,can you become a French citizen ? You know and I know you won't be thrown out of France,you decided to make your life abroad with lots of others so wot right do you and the others have to decide the future of those that live and work here,you are sounding like that Doris in charge of the snp,it's not going to make any difference to you and you know it because France will vote to come out given the chance,at least the French stick together which I think you will agree with ,wot a great feeling it was to see the Brits stick together for once,shall us Brits stop buying foreign cars,foreign electricity,foreign coal,if that happened there would be a lot of people in Europe out of work,time to move on chaps and stop winging,get over it
 
bluejon said:
Quite correct. We are not a presidential state. Further though, the referendum was not a party election. Vote Leave was a campaign, nothing more, and cross-party. Remain was also cross party. We have to disconnect Cameron departing and needing to be replaced from Brexit itself. The new PM doesn't necessarily have to be a Brexiter. Great discussion on this on Question Time just a few minutes ago. A general election is not what we need right now, not least because the majority of MPs are against leaving. We need strong, experienced leaders to come in who can carry out the majority will of the nation and negotiate strongly, even a government of national unity for the foreseeable period.
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Yeah - seperate the two things - agreed

NAH, what you need right now is NEW, untainted blood from a new generation that actually....really want to change things for the better.

There is already some uncertainty around because Cameroon :lol: won't go NOW so a little more won't harm, after all everything'll be alright and nothing's changed so why worry ?
A clean sweep, none of these 'experienced' (read old-school line yer pockets) types !

Strong ? Who ? That clown Boris ? Sack him - he's done his job - you're out. Forage:D ? He aint strong.....he's my brother, sorry - wrong line - a wimp !

Have a real revolution, keep the momentum going and really kick Westminster up the butt !
I'd respect that !:bow:
 
status said:
The non Brits Sean pay taxes here and have British passports......it's not going to make any difference to you and you know it because France will vote to come out given the chance,at least the French stick together which I think you will agree with
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I think the great feeling you had WAS great - I hope that the euphoria remains in 2 years time.

As for the French, No they definitely don't stick together and they won't leave the EU - I'll bet my Z on that.

status said:
The non Brits Sean pay taxes here and have British passports....
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I think that you're confused there mate - go away and think it out. If you've a Brit passport.....you're a Brit - not a non-Brit and non-Brits were allowed to vote (from the Commonwealth etc). Never mind - luve ya still. :thumbs:
 
But you don't live here anymore so you have no right to vote on those that do future,you can't have yer cake and eat it (save me some ) I was under the impression the French stuck together,you ain't got no worries as your missus is French isn't she?they won't deport you cos I'll sign a petition against it,
 
status said:
But you don't live here anymore so you have no right to vote on those that do future,you can't have yer cake and eat it
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You still don't get it do you friend....: the Gibraltans, Maltese and Cypriots don't either but they can vote.
The Brexit vote directly affects most if not all expats and yet we had no choice in the matter - that's just what you've voted against in the guise of the EU.....rather hypocritical don't you think ?:eek:
 
I for one will not SWOOP your girlfriend Sean, as my wife would kick my ass for doing so.

Your wife will probably kick your ass for having one.

Lets just wave at each other in the mornings shall we???
 
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