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Drag racing rules and classing
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SeanDezart
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Mr.F said:
And that's it ? - Mr F. has spoken and you all say "ok" ? Read the rules - they say "anything goes (no turbos, NOS or slicks)". And it aint marked that only road legal cars are allowed in this class and so, as was quoted earlier on this thread -
zedhead260 said:
And so.....................?
zedhead260
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As far as my car goes, anything goes but still still Class 1 - so no beef.
zedhead260
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SeanDezart said:
That's got something to do with respecting that fact Mike is The Club's Motorsport Organiser - as voted in by YOU.
ben240z
Club Member
i admire you optimism ofzedhead260 said:
a, my car running as a roadgoing car. This would involve extensive modification, lights, handbrake and other such essential MOT items. then there would be the slight problem of getting 10 and 12 inch wide road tyres. And even then I believe that the car would be outside the spirit of the class regs
b, me coming along and wooping steves ass. All the time he has put into perfecting his drag techique is not just for fun.
If I can find a meeting that does not clash with the hillclimbs then I would love to come along and have a go at a drag race but again it would be an alien enviroment for the car as it is used to corners as well as straight bits.
zedhead260
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My mistake - the no lights should have been a bit of a clue for me ( doh !! )
Mr.F
Inactive
I'm going to suggest an addition to the regs as a result of these discussions. Previously we used to state that all cars involved in any race series would be raised to Super Mod status. It has always been implied, but perhaps never stated, that the essence of all classes bar Super Mod is that the cars are road legal and driven to the track with MOT, insurance and road fund licence. We've never had a case in recent years where this would need to be challenged.
However, due to the more serious intentions of some competitors this year, I reviewed the tyre situation to include any tyres which are "capable of getting an MOT" and where the competitor still must be capable of driving to the track on those tyres. This is in line with Santa Pod's own Pro Street Eliminator rules where competitors must do a road circuit and fill up with pump gas before they compete - and we are talking nine second capability monsters here! Thus this new pargraph was in the rule sheet available to competitors at Round 1:
NEW With the introduction of various treaded slick tyres designed specifically for drag racing, it is felt that the additional clause must be added for Classes 1 – 6: “Tyres must be fully street legal, capable of passing an MOT and the car must be capable of driving to the strip on those tyres. DOT marked but non- street legal tyres will be deemed to raise the competitor to Class 7 status.” Check references to Santa Pod’s own Street Eliminator rulings.
The implication is, of course, that cars in Classes 1 - 6 ARE street legal and typical Clubman cars, no matter how extreme their road-going modifications might be within the confines of the initial ruling. However, to eliminate any further argument (unlikely, it would seem), I'd like to add:
"Cars competing in classes 1 to 6 are expected to conform to all legal requirements of a road-going, MOT'd and taxed vehicle and to have been driven to and from the track, i.e. a typical Clubman's car. Cars brought on trailers / transporters, cars in regular competition use and cars stripped or lightened excessively may be subject to additional scrutiny before being allocated to a class. The decision of the official on the day will be final."
Any comments or objections before I make this final?
However, due to the more serious intentions of some competitors this year, I reviewed the tyre situation to include any tyres which are "capable of getting an MOT" and where the competitor still must be capable of driving to the track on those tyres. This is in line with Santa Pod's own Pro Street Eliminator rules where competitors must do a road circuit and fill up with pump gas before they compete - and we are talking nine second capability monsters here! Thus this new pargraph was in the rule sheet available to competitors at Round 1:
NEW With the introduction of various treaded slick tyres designed specifically for drag racing, it is felt that the additional clause must be added for Classes 1 – 6: “Tyres must be fully street legal, capable of passing an MOT and the car must be capable of driving to the strip on those tyres. DOT marked but non- street legal tyres will be deemed to raise the competitor to Class 7 status.” Check references to Santa Pod’s own Street Eliminator rulings.
The implication is, of course, that cars in Classes 1 - 6 ARE street legal and typical Clubman cars, no matter how extreme their road-going modifications might be within the confines of the initial ruling. However, to eliminate any further argument (unlikely, it would seem), I'd like to add:
"Cars competing in classes 1 to 6 are expected to conform to all legal requirements of a road-going, MOT'd and taxed vehicle and to have been driven to and from the track, i.e. a typical Clubman's car. Cars brought on trailers / transporters, cars in regular competition use and cars stripped or lightened excessively may be subject to additional scrutiny before being allocated to a class. The decision of the official on the day will be final."
Any comments or objections before I make this final?
Legendary5
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SeanDezart
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zedhead260 said:
Grolls - no Mr Fing way ! All too often, Mr F. (no disrespect here Mike) drops in a line and the subject goes dead - 'damn, the teachers' back - everyone heads down' ! Don't you think that it must be frustrating for Mr F to 'kill' so many threads ? Doesn't HE
deserve to partake in discussions without the 'rabbits' bolting down their holes ? OK, I hope you're still my friends, I only wanted to liven up an otherwise dull forum recently (before Sixxy and carbon fibre took over thankfully) 
!Mr F. I trust you with any rules alterations ! ..............except I now realise that I am unfairly excluded from the Drag Challenge - can you guess why ?
Ben - what happened to your challenge to Skiddy ? And on another thread, (TBs v. carbs I think) wasn't it you that said that I was wrong not to count your car as roadgoing..........
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SeanDezart
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Actually, this thread is also relevant here :
http://www.zclub.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6173
The definition of a race car as uncompromised and a road car as compromised !
The definition of lightening Zs placing them into Roadsports and NOT road cars...
http://www.zclub.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6173
The definition of a race car as uncompromised and a road car as compromised !
The definition of lightening Zs placing them into Roadsports and NOT road cars...
SeanDezart
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Let's change the subject Russ and enjoy THIS weekend !
!
ben240z
Club Member
Sean it is so good to see that you are consistant in your missquoting of people. That part of the sentence was actually about classing an engine as roadgoing or race not the whole car but then it would not have fitted into this thread had you used the whole quote in context. As ever it is a pleasure to read your contributions to each thread. It generally stimulates further contributions. Keep smiling through the red haze. benSeanDezart said:Ben - what happened to your challenge to Skiddy ? And on another thread, (TBs v. carbs I think) wasn't it you that said that I was wrong not to count your car as roadgoing..........
SeanDezart
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But what about your Skiddy challenge Ben ? He does a hill-climb, you do a drag run and you both do a circuit lap ?
zedhead260
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SeanDezart said:
So you decide to contest something which people have spent lots of time trying to improve and suggest the “rules need to be looked at soon” when the season has only just started – give it a chance !
And you wonder why people get a little wound up. My foray into your F1 competition thread was meant as a parody, you jump to its defence criticising the committee in the process, and I get accused of being petty minded and scoring points - LOL
All you have done is pick up on the fact that the words “light weight” don’t appear in the examples (despite the fact it says “no distinction is being made between modified or un-modified”). You appear to understand that lightweight = modified
e.g. –
SeanDezart said:
SeanDezart said:
So why the debate ? Why not just ask a simple question to get the answer you really desire.
Ok, this thread has highlighted some clarification regarding non-road legal cars (for you & I at least) – but that still has bugger all to do with weight does it. Chuck four bags of cement in the back of Ben’s car and it’s still super-modified class 7 – as I assume Big Sam & the Fourways car.
And this is a classic, you mock us for accepting Mr F’s word as soon as he speaks and then ……
SeanDezart said:
As do we all Sean, welcome to the fluffy bunny club –
good grief !SeanDezart said:
Is this the part where we get our violins out ?? Or are you just making lame excuses ??
Yep, well said Rob. I agree 100%
The truth of the matter Sean is that what you have done is potentially alienated yourself from the small group of people who have put a lot of time and effort into trying to "liven up" (your term) the Z Club Drag Challenge.
Its not our fault that you are sat in splendid isolation in the middle of rural France without a 240Z and clearly with too much time on your hands.
However that is no reason to be a keyboard Ninja and launch in to an ill informed tirade against one of the clubs long established events and those who participate and organize it.
Now why dont you try and move along???
If you feel its your duty to start debates or threads try something more original. Tell us about your Z scene in France as most of us cant read French and dont know much about the French club and web site.
This forum is so restricted in its "British only " outlook.