Cat D, £21,200. Seller says 'it can only go up in price'.£26k on a Ford Fiesta, your life’s mental …
Just look at it. I couldn’t even drive round in it.
This made decent money I thought …
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Classic Values (at the moment 12/23).
- Thread starter Rob Gaskin
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chrisvega
Well-Known Forum User
You need to stop comparing classics to modern day cars, yes they are both capable of getting from A to B but that's where the similarity ends.
I'll just throw this out there though, on a quiet Sunday morning on a deserted B road (if I could find one) my standard 1971 240Z with 150bhp and 0-60 in 8 secs would blow your new Fiesta into the weeds and I would be having far more fun driving it on the limit. If I was in my restomod 240Z with 300bhp and 0-60 in less than 5 secs you can bring a new RS Ford to the party and you'll still have trouble keeping up and less fun.
Quote "Don't get me wrong I love the Datsun Z cars - they are beautiful with bags of character but the valuations are hard to understand"
The answer is in your question - anything that is beautiful with bags of character is desirable and doesn't usually come cheap, you name it...................cars, houses, artwork, antique furniture or women
I'll just throw this out there though, on a quiet Sunday morning on a deserted B road (if I could find one) my standard 1971 240Z with 150bhp and 0-60 in 8 secs would blow your new Fiesta into the weeds and I would be having far more fun driving it on the limit. If I was in my restomod 240Z with 300bhp and 0-60 in less than 5 secs you can bring a new RS Ford to the party and you'll still have trouble keeping up and less fun.
Quote "Don't get me wrong I love the Datsun Z cars - they are beautiful with bags of character but the valuations are hard to understand"
The answer is in your question - anything that is beautiful with bags of character is desirable and doesn't usually come cheap, you name it...................cars, houses, artwork, antique furniture or women
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I was comparig a rusty 'sporty' Escort Mexico for £33k to a brand new 1ltr shopping car costing much less. Compare your standard 240 to a 370Z of the same value. I've had both and know what the outcome would be.
What's beautiful about this? Just saying all along that classic values are high.
What's beautiful about this? Just saying all along that classic values are high.
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MCBladeRun
Club Member
I think some of these cars are being sold by greedy people who talk them up and either lie through their teeth or are simply ignorant.
If buyers don't do their research and question the sellers claims - as clearly is the underlying message of everyones thoughts on here. Then there isn't much more we can do. Our collective hands are tied.
I'm disturbed by that fiesta price tag as well. I bought a fiesta on finance when I was younger: '56 plate 1.25 for £9k, my first car. Saw it the other day, it made my year seeing it still going.
If buyers don't do their research and question the sellers claims - as clearly is the underlying message of everyones thoughts on here. Then there isn't much more we can do. Our collective hands are tied.
I'm disturbed by that fiesta price tag as well. I bought a fiesta on finance when I was younger: '56 plate 1.25 for £9k, my first car. Saw it the other day, it made my year seeing it still going.
Mr.G
Club Member
Some things unfashionable at the time have now become retro and cool and now have a following.I was comparig a rusty 'sporty' Escort Mexico for £33k to a brand new 1ltr shopping car costing much less. Compare your standard 240 to a 370Z of the same value. I've had both and know what the outcome would be.
What's beautiful about this? Just saying all along that classic values are high.
Some I think may deserve their new found appreciation whilst others I still don't get
Thinking about it now, not many young car enthusiasts can afford the mainstream classics. Prices have gone up so much so that many wanting to get into the classic car world have to make do with appreciating the cars that at the time may not have been the most appreciated, hence values still low in comparison.
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
this looked like good value.
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
and this
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
and this
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
also this
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
Classic Car Auctions | 1982 Mercedes-Benz 380SL (R107)-Sold
3.8-litre, V8-engined, R107 Mercedes right hand drive in Astral grey, matching hard top , Navy blue interior
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
and this
Classic Car Auctions | 1998 Honda Integra DC2 Type-R -Sold
Very desirable, original UK-supplied , right-hand drive, Integra Type R DC with just 45,904 miles and one owner from brand
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
and this
Classic Car Auctions | 1968 Honda S800M Coupé-For Sale
A lovely, right-hand drive, Mk 2 example of Honda's S800 '
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
also this
Classic Car Auctions | 1985 BMW 735 (E23) Alpina B10 3.5 -Sold
UK-supplied, right-hand drive BMW 735i SE (E23) Finished in Diamond Black, magazine featured,. rare example
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
chrisvega
Well-Known Forum User
OK Rob,
Ford Comparision only for the same money I'll take this instead of the new Fiesta
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
and the Polo for taking the dog out.
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
Ford Comparision only for the same money I'll take this instead of the new Fiesta
Classic Car Auctions | 1988dSolddEscoltdXR3id-d2,859dMi s-Sold
Superbly presented, second-generation Escort XR3i, low mileage just 2,859 miles, in Mercury Grey , Manual Gear box
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
and the Polo for taking the dog out.
Classic Car Auctions | 1989dVo ksw g ndPo odCd(Typ d86C)-Sold
Radiant Red VE polo, RHD, MOT's unitl May 2024, Hatchback , manual , "bread bin" Polo Super mini
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
Yep, as per my original post - a lot sold cheaper than expected.this looked like good value.
Classic Car Auctions | 1982 Mercedes-Benz 380SL (R107)-Sold
3.8-litre, V8-engined, R107 Mercedes right hand drive in Astral grey, matching hard top , Navy blue interior
and this
Classic Car Auctions | 1998 Honda Integra DC2 Type-R -Sold
Very desirable, original UK-supplied , right-hand drive, Integra Type R DC with just 45,904 miles and one owner from brand
and this
Classic Car Auctions | 1968 Honda S800M Coupé-For Sale
A lovely, right-hand drive, Mk 2 example of Honda's S800 '
also this
Classic Car Auctions | 1985 BMW 735 (E23) Alpina B10 3.5 -Sold
UK-supplied, right-hand drive BMW 735i SE (E23) Finished in Diamond Black, magazine featured,. rare example
Classic Car Auctions | 1955dAustin-H yd100/4d(BN1)-Sold
A delightful, UK-supplied, matching numbers, Austin Healey BN1 in Carmin Red
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
Here's a bit of 'classic madness'. Can you imagine going to a dealer showroom to collect your £68,000 car and it was in this condition?
No warranty etc etc. 'We didn't clean or polish it sir because it's worth more like this'!
Non-runner, no history etc
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
Anyway I'll stop now on this topic, I've 'gone on' long enough.
No warranty etc etc. 'We didn't clean or polish it sir because it's worth more like this'!
Non-runner, no history etc
Classic Car Auctions | 1966 Chevrolet Corvette C2 Stingray (Big Block) Manual-Sold
rare, manual gearbox, 425bhp Big-Block Chevrolet Corvette Stingray C2 Convertible in Stealth Black is on offer at No Reserve...
www.classiccarauctions.co.uk
Anyway I'll stop now on this topic, I've 'gone on' long enough.
toopy
Club Member
Decent money for a 2+2 yes, but shouldn't it really be £25k + when you consider what your really getting for the money, I'd have this all day long over a LHD 280z that needs work, assuming no rot in the 2+2. It doesn't make sense to me why a 2 seater is so much better in most peoples eyes, it isn't. With the modifications on my car albeit fairly standard compared to many, it should be worth around £35k, but it isn't because it's slightly longer and marginally slower........ and!£26k on a Ford Fiesta, your life’s mental …
Just look at it. I couldn’t even drive round in it.
This made decent money I thought …
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
it was a cat D repaired, with the fee's it did well with the marker?
The 2+2 can be very desirable with a few mods, yours looks lovely. A 2+2 EType is ruined.
toopy
Club Member
I see what your saying, but if at the time the circumstances meant a relatively low book value and then likely expensive Nissan parts only for the repair, it probably wouldn't of been written off and we would be none the wiser. So all said and done, really shouldn't make any difference on price today, no?
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
I’d pay less for a cat d car(20%) than a none cat car.
As would a lot of others, which brings the competition down and therefore the overall value.
uk66fastback
Club Member
That Merc 380 for £9k looked good value.
Healey 12
Club Member
I would say a bargain, with the amount of money it had spent on it over the last few years
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
there was a listing/note on it in the auction so its highly likely that there was a massive issue that wasn't in the description.
Healey 12
Club Member
The sale note stated " no reserve" I could not find anything that concerned any issues
Sold for £17k. Not to me but what a bargain.To try and make my original point (sensible pricing) if this goes for mid estimate I think it would be a good buy. I find it interesting because of it's history, rarity and rally focus. Body seems reasonable too.
