10k for LHD to RHD conversion?

[Alphabettispaghetti]

i’d imagine....

stripping it apart 10 hours
Cutting and rewelding 35 hours
Paint and corrective, 20 hours
Reassembly 20 hours

if I tried to build this up to a price(ie if a drive in left/come out right)

Based on 85 hours labour alone(£18 per hour(thats paid to staff not charged rate) thats £1530

1) Add on 23.5% £1889.55.

2) Say a month of 'unit time' £2500

3) cost of RHD bulkhead £750

4) rhd dash £750

5) Rhd rack/heater and all other parts £750

6) consumables 350

£6989.55, less vat.

Add vat is £8387.

So if you were to say 15% 'profit', you soon hit £9645.

Now, i've fingered in the air at some costs, i'm quite good at it for a 'decent business' though as its part of my job. you'd save money by having multiple projects in a unit at once, i've not added £250 ish for paint.

basically, its easy to see here £10k comes from. Now, fourways probably own their unit, however its still got overheads.

 

[Mark N]

if I tried to build this up to a price(ie if a drive in left/come out right)

Based on 85 hours labour alone(£18 per hour(thats paid to staff not charged rate) thats £1530

1) Add on 23.5% £1889.55.

2) Say a month of 'unit time' £2500

3) cost of RHD bulkhead £750

4) rhd dash £750

5) Rhd rack/heater and all other parts £750

6) consumables 350

£6989.55, less vat.

Add vat is £8387.

So if you were to say 15% 'profit', you soon hit £9645.

Now, i've fingered in the air at some costs, i'm quite good at it for a 'decent business' though as its part of my job. you'd save money by having multiple projects in a unit at once, i've not added £250 ish for paint.

basically, its easy to see here £10k comes from. Now, fourways probably own their unit, however its still got overheads.

I'll do it for half that!

 

[Bazzateer]

I'll do it for half that!

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No sorry, the dash is all wrong.

 

[Bazzateer]

if I tried to build this up to a price(ie if a drive in left/come out right)

Based on 85 hours labour alone(£18 per hour(thats paid to staff not charged rate) thats £1530

1) Add on 23.5% £1889.55.

2) Say a month of 'unit time' £2500

3) cost of RHD bulkhead £750

4) rhd dash £750

5) Rhd rack/heater and all other parts £750

6) consumables 350

£6989.55, less vat.

Add vat is £8387.

So if you were to say 15% 'profit', you soon hit £9645.

Now, i've fingered in the air at some costs, i'm quite good at it for a 'decent business' though as its part of my job. you'd save money by having multiple projects in a unit at once, i've not added £250 ish for paint.

basically, its easy to see here £10k comes from. Now, fourways probably own their unit, however its still got overheads.

I think your labour cost is way off. I can't see a specialist charging less than £50/hr, more likely a lot more. Then you can add 20% vat on top. Does anyone know how much labour is at Fourways?

 

[Rob Gaskin]

If you want your car converting to RHD you identify who can do it, get a 'firm' quote, establish quality of work from recommendations/internet search etc

Decide.

No point in hypothetical numbers on here.

 

[uk66fastback]

They’re not hypothetical numbers, Fourways quoted a price for a RHD conversion. People are trying to cost it out. A lot of which is guesswork, a lot of which isn’t. Franky, where and how did you arrive at this ‘unit time’ figure?

 

[Alphabettispaghetti]

I think your labour cost is way off. I can't see a specialist charging less than £50/hr, more likely a lot more. Then you can add 20% vat on top. Does anyone know how much labour is at Fourways?

if you read, that price was what’s paid, not an all in figure

 

[Alphabettispaghetti]

They’re not hypothetical numbers, Fourways quoted a price for a RHD conversion. People are trying to cost it out. A lot of which is guesswork, a lot of which isn’t. Franky, where and how did you arrive at this ‘unit time’ figure?

Cost of a single unit with nothing else in.

 

[Albrecht]

OK, this is from the horse's mouth, so to speak:

The £10k GBP LHD to RHD conversion quote was for a theoretical drive-in, drive out service, including paintwork (firewall/bulkhead, cowl/scuttle etc) and *all parts supplied in the service* (RHD dash, pedal box, rack, heater unit, cowl panel, battery tray, washer bottle bracket, bulkhead panel, etc etc etc) and included a labour rate of £80 per hour. PLUS VAT at 20%.

Quite realistic, in my opinion.

 

[Alphabettispaghetti]

OK, this is from the horse's mouth, so to speak:

The £10k GBP LHD to RHD conversion quote was for a theoretical drive-in, drive out service, including paintwork (firewall/bulkhead, cowl/scuttle etc) and *all parts supplied in the service* (RHD dash, pedal box, rack, heater unit, cowl panel, battery tray, washer bottle bracket, bulkhead panel, etc etc etc) and included a labour rate of £80 per hour. PLUS VAT at 20%.

Quite realistic, in my opinion.

As the £80 per hour in inclusive of all the COB discussed, it seems we're right in the correct ballpark. People forgot what the actual figure of £80 per hour is covering.

 

[Bazzateer]

if you read, that price was what’s paid, not an all in figure

Yeah I get that, just pointing out that the labour cost charged to the customer is going to be a lot more than +25% meaning the overall cost is going to be much higher than your estimate. So if Fourways will do it for £10k all-in it seems pretty reasonable.

 

[uk66fastback]

Well, I think it is still too much for the work involved - but if that is what Fourways charge then good luck to them! But that is the joy of a forum - a polite exchange of views.

Back to the NISMO discussion ...

 

[Mr Tenno]

Yeah I get that, just pointing out that the labour cost charged to the customer is going to be a lot more than +25% meaning the overall cost is going to be much higher than your estimate. So if Fourways will do it for £10k all-in it seems pretty reasonable.

I think he's factored that in, the labour amount the customer sees includes the unit time so it's more like 63% of the ex.VAT bill?

 

[Alphabettispaghetti]

Yeah I get that, just pointing out that the labour cost charged to the customer is going to be a lot more than +25% meaning the overall cost is going to be much higher than your estimate. So if Fourways will do it for £10k all-in it seems pretty reasonable.

yeah, as normally people just get charged an hourly rate which wraps it all in. I think we can see where the £10k can come from for a half decent business?

 

[jonbills]

Thread reopened. The topic is the price of converting LHD to RHD.

 

[uk66fastback]

It's all been said (but good to have it under a separate thread).

Would be good if anyone was having it done by someone or doing it themselves to say what the costs were/are though.

 

[SeanDezart]

Poor imply. Always being mis-inferred.

I forget my English sometimes - sorry.

 

[Fastededdie]

So glad Iv got a right Hand drive UK car. End of

 

[Chappers]

Keeping mine lhd- sold the rhd bits- more money in the kitty for the work on the car when I finally get around to it.

 

[Alphabettispaghetti]

So glad Iv got a right Hand drive UK car. End of

as I couldn't afford the massive restoration costs, i've glad mines LHD!