Sunbaked '76 Cali 280z

Robotsan

Club Member
By about 75% In terms of slop and play. Feels firm. Was a nightmare for me to fit for various personal reasons lol

I won't ask why! 😂 Do you think they're as easy to fit as the plastic ones (for most people?!).

Thanks, that's quite the improvement. I wonder if it feels any better than the plastic ones.. or if it's just about them lasting longer.
 

MCBladeRun

Club Member
I won't ask why! 😂 Do you think they're as easy to fit as the plastic ones (for most people?!).

Thanks, that's quite the improvement. I wonder if it feels any better than the plastic ones.. or if it's just about them lasting longer.
Well, plastic will never be as hard wearing as metal, the brass is a type that self-lubricates if it is to be believed (I'm not a materials engineer) and they supply it with a helping of this special lubricant too. My only issue is that, 2x types of lubrication usually ends up with a mixed compound that has unknown qualitys?

But I digress, my point being is too many chefs spoil the broth or something. I know what I mean, I just lack the research to back up the above claim. Perhaps 2x types of lubricant is better than 1x?

I'll let you know if it catches fire from being over used lol
 

Robotsan

Club Member
Well, plastic will never be as hard wearing as metal, the brass is a type that self-lubricates if it is to be believed (I'm not a materials engineer) and they supply it with a helping of this special lubricant too. My only issue is that, 2x types of lubrication usually ends up with a mixed compound that has unknown qualitys?

But I digress, my point being is too many chefs spoil the broth or something. I know what I mean, I just lack the research to back up the above claim. Perhaps 2x types of lubricant is better than 1x?

I'll let you know if it catches fire from being over used lol

Blimey, wasn't expecting to be worrying about double lube! Well I'm sure we'd know about it by now if anyone's car had caught fire due to it.

On ZStore it says due to manufacturing cost rises, they no longer supply it with the lube:

"*Update: Due to rapidly rising material costs, our supplier is no longer including grease with these bushings. A high end bearing grease, such as Mobile 1 Synthetic or Lucas Red N' Tacky, can be used to improve bushing life but is not required. Please give us a call if you have any questions."

So the additional lube isn't even required perhaps!
 

MCBladeRun

Club Member
Blimey, wasn't expecting to be worrying about double lube! Well I'm sure we'd know about it by now if anyone's car had caught fire due to it.

On ZStore it says due to manufacturing cost rises, they no longer supply it with the lube:

"*Update: Due to rapidly rising material costs, our supplier is no longer including grease with these bushings. A high end bearing grease, such as Mobile 1 Synthetic or Lucas Red N' Tacky, can be used to improve bushing life but is not required. Please give us a call if you have any questions."

So the additional lube isn't even required perhaps!
Exactly, I thought of it as a sweetener to the deal!

But unless stringent quality testing has been done then, who knows 😅
 

Robotsan

Club Member
Black smoke means it's too rich - so you do have some EFI bible work to do.

Disappointingly, there's nothing in the troubleshooting section about running too rich. Would you say any of these things could be a king of synonym for running too rich? "Poor Gas Mileage" or "CO Too High" perhaps?

If not, I'll just start checking every connection and hose at the weekend. I'll do that anyway, but would be good to have one of these troubleshooting guides to follow too.

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Robotsan

Club Member
poor petrol mileage might be a place to start

Thanks Jon. Looks like I've got a steep learning curve ahead of me, having just read that section of the bible.

I'll get some satisfaction if I can fix this issue... but in the back of my mind I know I can also get the SUs that Mike included with the car reconditioned and installed if I fail.
 

Robotsan

Club Member
Looks like I'm going to need a fuel pressure test kit / gauge.

Could anyone tell me if this one will do it?: https://www.rallydesign.co.uk/produ...9JcCMjyktVE6m0O7z5H1Vyc6c8QT6tjc_OmAtmnvXJpaU

Seems to cover the PSI range needed (36.3), but I don't know if the connections will be suitable?

*EDIT* - found out this is for modern cars with a schrader valve.

I think I need something more like this?: https://zcardepot.com/products/fuel-injection-inline-pressure-gauge-0-100-psi

Do I want a permanent in-line gauge or a temporary one though?
 
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toopy

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Just ran it again, and held it at 3k revs for 5 min.

This was temp and oil pressure just after starting:

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And then this was it after 5 min:

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Is that ok looking?

A loud fan came on after about 3 min, so that's working.

And the radiator and the top hose are both nice and hot now.

I then gave it some revs, and there was still black smoke puffing out of the exhaust on each press of the throttle.
Yes, that looks more consistent with what should be happening, the temp gauge could be slightly out as it generally reads nothing initially, so a new sender/clean connections would be a good start there.
 

Robotsan

Club Member
Yes, that looks more consistent with what should be happening, the temp gauge could be slightly out as it generally reads nothing initially, so a new sender/clean connections would be a good start there.

Ok great, thanks Toopy. I will try and clean up as many connections as I can at the weekend, and then if that doesn't fix it I'll buy new senders.

Stupid question alert - is a sender the same as a sensor? Is it just an old fashioned version?
 

Kieronpollock

Club Member
I also decided to get the car up on some ramps and pressure wash the underside, as it had lots of caked on California dirt under there and in the wheel arches, so I wanted to see how it would all look clean.

It's all pretty good under there - just some surface rust on the subframes and other bits.

But I've noticed the old underseal is peeling off in a lot of places, mainly where there are bolts and things. Is this now a ticking time bomb, rust wise?

I was thinking of getting something like Lanoguard and coating the entire underside with that to hopefully stop it from rusting away now it's in England? At least to keep it as solid as possible before I can afford to get the underside professionally redone.

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Really impressed with how clean the metal is though..

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I’ve used Lanoguard on a number of classic cars over the years and it’s great stuff, keeps the moisture at bay and can be used pretty much everywhere except the brakes …..I WD40 those😉😂
 

yellowz

Club Member
Ok great, thanks Toopy. I will try and clean up as many connections as I can at the weekend, and then if that doesn't fix it I'll buy new senders.

Stupid question alert - is a sender the same as a sensor? Is it just an old fashioned version?
Test I did on the temp sensor was to put the connector to earth bypassing the sensor completely. I f nothing happens there is a short, if the gauge goes right round to hot you have power but the sensor is faulty.
 

Robotsan

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Test I did on the temp sensor was to put the connector to earth bypassing the sensor completely. I f nothing happens there is a short, if the gauge goes right round to hot you have power but the sensor is faulty.

Thanks Jim, that sounds good. I might need you to talk me through how to do that though - I'm pretty green when it comes to electrics.
 

Robotsan

Club Member
I started pulling any electrical connectors I could see out tonight and gave the terminals a bit of a sand and a clean with electrical contact cleaner. None of them looked too bad, but I didn't get round to the AFM connector.

I have spotted some wires that aren't connected to anything in the engine bay though - perhaps they were for the broken AC gear that you removed @SacCyclone?

Firstly there's this green wire coming from this harness on the side of the engine, which ends in a round female connector:

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And then there's a similar one on the other side (left side of car):

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Only other potential problem I've spotted is a frayed blue seewire coming out of one of the sensors under the thermostat (can't remember which one as there's 3 there isn't there? Water, Thermotime, and another one?) - I think it's the top one of the 3?:

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SacCyclone

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Since the AC was removed some time ago, I'm sure there are wires that are loose in the engine compartment that were meant to run the compressor etc. Sorry I'm not any help there as I did not remove them and I an not a electrical guy.....probably need to consult an electrical diagram for a 280.
 

Robotsan

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Since the AC was removed some time ago, I'm sure there are wires that are loose in the engine compartment that were meant to run the compressor etc. Sorry I'm not any help there as I did not remove them and I an not a electrical guy.....probably need to consult an electrical diagram for a 280.

No problem at all Mike, I thought they are probably AC related too, but just putting them up in case anyone else recognises them. Thanks I'll have a look for a diagram.
 
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