Rare 'Samuri' part. Valuation?

STEVE BURNS said:
I would like to turn it on its head and ask why those parts sold and cars prepared by Kevin at a certain time should not be called Samuris ?
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Yes - but did he build complete cars or was it merely parts, limited preperation and servicing exisiting Sams ? Anyone asked him already ?

I wonder seeing one race at le Mans and another estimated at more than the price of a house over here if we won't see up to no. 80 built and appear ?
 
I thought Kevin had the rights to the sammy name or took it over,not that I'm bothered too much but if true then my 260z was a sammy as he did an engine for me that went rather well,sold it so it's now just a boring 260z with a 3.1 that goes even faster,help I'm confused,think I'll call it a Jujitsu Z
 
I was going to post a picture of my samuris head with invoice for it from Spike but didn't want to lower the tone of this thread.

So I'll post one of something more appropriate.
 

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johnymd said:
I was going to post a picture of my samuris head with invoice for it from Spike but didn't want to lower the tone of this thread.

So I'll post one of something more appropriate.
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With a lick of orange paint, some pinstriping and a bit of signwriting, you might be able to get a 'Letter From Spike' for that...
 
samuri-240 said:
I do not think so. Samuri was Spike. Also what about numbers 75,76 &77 ? LHD Samuri's, Auto Samuri's !
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That's alot of cars then. If you ever experienced Samuri customer care you would know alot of the work was done by Kevin.


On subject with the thread. I have a Sam that raced in Hscc. Is registered to the unit a Silverstone. Sponsored by Samuri (Spike) with lots of documentation not just vague memories.

This was all done before Spike "went on holiday" and before Samuri was set up again.

Yet this car and 4 others in similar situations aren't counted...

Kristian Irons
 
SeanDezart said:
Rather than 'knock Spike' - I'd rather find out more upon which are Samuris and not.

There was obviously trading after Spike left and more recently we've seen nos 75, 76 and 77 which Spike can't have built and the Samuri.eu register is out of date :

http://www.samuri.eu/index_files/Page298.htm
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Sean you know full well who was involved in the building of 75,76 & 77 in different countries but IMHO they were not done under the banner of Samuri Conversions Ltd and again as such in IMHO they are should not be classed as such a "true Samuri" and in my eyes more a "Reinvented Samuri" but what is in a name the owners of all the Sams enjoy owning and driving them

Once again it seems that the lack of detailed documentation and the relying on one persons memories and sometimes prodded memories by others leads to utter confusion and misleading of the true facts

I also find it strange that when a company has its financial affairs resolved in some way and that company still carries on trading of sorts under the same name after coming back from the brink how can a certain person not recognize this and the work that was carried out
 
Oh well Burnsie takes to long with his Finger on the keyboard typing out a reply but the point has been made clearer by someone elses input
 
Steve - Samuri.eu clearly states :

Super Samuri 75 (FFA196G) was originally restored by DJR and Traction Garage (A commission by Mike Lee) for the legendary Win Percy to race. After several years, with Win’s kind help, Robert Crofton purchased 75 and took on the task of racing her.

Super Samuri 76 (6605 HYJ) was restored by Traction Garage and DJR for the legendary Win Percy as a his road car in Spain. This now resides in Spain and is used most days.

Super Samuri 77 (FFA196A) was originally built by Traction Garage and DJR (A commission by Spike Anderson) for Alistair Douglas

Nothing hidden there and the cars were finished to a high standard.



As the national club in whose country Samuri operated, I believe this club ought to keep a reliable register of ALL cars produced under the Samuri banner.
 
SeanDezart said:
As the national club in whose country Samuri operated, I believe this club ought to keep a reliable register of ALL cars produced under the Samuri banner.
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That seems like something of a tall order considering that the individuals and company(companies) involved had - and continue to have - a rather loose grip on the facts...
 
Sean I did not say that anything was hidden and they are not finished to a high standard I was saying they were not built under the old "Samuri Conversions Ltd" banner but built by Traction Garage and DJR and as such are not true Samuris as most people recognize them

What my real point is that the one person we all recognize as the person behind Samuri only seems to want to recall what he wants to recall and a very good insight to this can be found in his Biography

Too be honest it all reminds me on a lot smaller scale of the misinformation that was put out about a certain alleged designer of the Z
 
Albrecht said:
That seems like something of a tall order considering that the individuals and company(companies) involved had - and continue to have - a rather loose grip on the facts...
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But the facts are out there and why I said that this club, under a moral responsability as the font of Z knowledge within the UK ought to collate and sieve those facts.....as indeed for several subjects.:thumbs:

STEVE BURNS said:
Sean I did not say that anything was hidden and they are not finished to a high standard I was saying they were not built under the old "Samuri Conversions Ltd" banner but built by Traction Garage and DJR and as such are not true Samuris as most people recognize them
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Steve :

there are cars built during Spike's presence at Silverstone and afterwards and now later ones built under his patronage.

I can't see why those cars built after Spike's UK departaure but before these last three should be excluded - either all are included or only those during his Silverstone presence.

I'm not hinting that any should be excluded or indeed that any are less the proper Samuri - just that one can't have one's cake and eat it.......or should 'real' Samuris only be those converted during dealership sales ?:unsure:
 
If I were to buy this rare and unique throttle mechanism I would be able to reconstruct the rest of the car around it . Which car did it come from so that I know which chassis number to put on the plate I bought on Ebay
 
tmr said:
If I were to buy this rare and unique throttle mechanism I would be able to reconstruct the rest of the car around it . Which car did it come from so that I know which chassis number to put on the plate I bought on Ebay
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I asked that :

SeanDezart said:
What is on the car from which it came ? Does the car still live and breathe ?
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STEVE BURNS said:
:thumbs: I think everybody and his dog agrees with you there
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Then Kristian (Mambofever) should get a list together.....he (they) might even be able to produce a no. 78.......;):rolleyes:
 
Going back to the original question... its worth what someone will pay for it. I would have thought it would be in the low hundreds, but what do I know? Not a lot about the prices of special low run items like this. I would look at it as, how much would it cost to have one made up from scratch?
 
Ped said:
Going back to the original question... its worth what someone will pay for it. I would have thought it would be in the low hundreds, but what do I know? Not a lot about the prices of special low run items like this. I would look at it as, how much would it cost to have one made up from scratch?
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You kill me mate !:smash::lol:
 
I'm beginning to not understand this thread. But then I don't know the history of these Samuri cars really - or much of the full story. Anyone got somewhere to point me on the net for a potted history?

I did search on google but it didn't throw up much.
 
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