Well out of my depth here but I think I can translate Albrechts posts for you, basically the spec of the car in question will remain a secret until you have proved yourself worhty.
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Le Mans Classic 6/7/8 July 2018
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SeanDezart
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? Prove worthy of what?! Why would anyone want to hide the spec of a car especially amongst club members?
Alphabettispaghetti
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I would ignore the above comment.
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
With respect Sean I could have said the the same to you
SeanDezart
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So Blobby - don't hold back - let your feelings show
!My point is :
If Rob or anyone else wants to go further with their Z towards a full competition car - they should be encouraged !
What difference do a few plastic bits make ? Well on the faster circuits probably around 5-10 seconds a lap translating to potentially 2x places in the scratch listing and 1x in the performance index which is the better guide to his and his car's overall result - 10th then and not 24th !
And seeing the Z there can only encourage others to attempt the trial - you can say is aint the real thing but ask Rob C if it felt ersatz !
Jake RAH
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The RAH Z stand opposite the Z club France stand. Sorry but I just couldn't be doing with those kerbs anymore 
Far from it, it was fantastic
The cars went round & round, lots of favourite cars & bikes, yes busy socialising
A big thanks to Sean for organising But please a better stand area without high kerbs next time
A big thanks to Mick for helping me sort the detached exhaust
Jon Palmer wins Le Mans Classic award for going way beyond the call of duty, and helping Rob Crofton with car parts (from Jon's own Car)
A fantastic time was had. Top company, top banter, beautiful cars & bikes of all shapes and sizes, amazing weather, lots of driving fun, the perfect place to stay - the chateau and the biggest thanks to Jon, Status, Mick, Tim & Chris for a ball
Far from it, it was fantastic
The cars went round & round, lots of favourite cars & bikes, yes busy socialising
A big thanks to Sean for organising
But please a better stand area without high kerbs next time A big thanks to Mick for helping me sort the detached exhaust
Jon Palmer wins Le Mans Classic award for going way beyond the call of duty, and helping Rob Crofton with car parts (from Jon's own Car)
A fantastic time was had. Top company, top banter, beautiful cars & bikes of all shapes and sizes, amazing weather, lots of driving fun, the perfect place to stay - the chateau
and the biggest thanks to Jon, Status, Mick, Tim & Chris for a ball 
Albrecht
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First of all, if they "didn't make any difference" then it begs the question as to why Nissan went to all the effort to homologate and race with them?
Secondly, the point being made was with regard to acknowledging/evoking the look and details of the original 1975 Le Mans 24hrs entry. I don't think anyone is suggesting that a recently-built 'Super Samuri' needs to be changed into something else.
Thirdly - and this is a key point for me - if anyone thinks that the '75 and '76 Le Mans car was just "some plastic body bits" I would humbly suggest that they might benefit from a little bit of research...
SeanDezart
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I'm firmly with Alan on this one.
Whilst trying to read between the lines Alan (going back a post or three), are you suggesting that the Japanese replica is closer to the original engine and especially induction system as seen on the '75 LM car ? Now THAT would be something worth pushing for their entry and although I'm no heavyweight, if you want to pool forces to convince Peter Auto to accept the car - I'm on board.
The owner-driver of the Japanese 240Z Monté Carlo Historic entry was with us on the stand being chaperoned by Hubert as a friend's car was racing there this year. We also met (and introduced) an older with a younger man (both Japanese), the younger being a NISMO engineer if I followed the in situ translation. I accordingly gave each gentleman a small but apt present as, I believe, is the custom.
All this just reminds me to get out more (when I have a Z !) as the 'value' of meeting/talking face to face far outweighs what we can do behind a keyboard.
RAH - it's not the kerb the problem but the lack of material behind it making the curb into a pernicious 'speed bump' ! As stated, from Friday afternoon we brought wooden plancks to help everybody with low cars and fat tums. I'll try better next time - the only worry if that they stick us in the middle of nowhere ! I spotted a place that I'd like first dibbs on - we'll see
Albrecht
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I think you're confusing two different cars. The 'Rampo Yanaka' car you posted a photo of up-thread is not the car which was refused an entry to the LMC some years back.
No disrespect to Rampo, but his car is a decidedly home-built, road registered car inspired by the look of the original '75 Le Mans entry and little more than that. I've seen it in the metal in Japan and, whilst it looks the part from a distance, it doesn't cut it close-up and is decidedly rough around the edges. Enough said.
The car refused on paper by P.A. was a pro-built race car, largely *correct* in detail to the original '75 LM entry, including the E4621 FIA-headed LR24 engine, ECGI fuel system, 120 litre trunk-fill tank, works KS wheels, N3020-kit body parts and all sorts of other stuff. At the time it was single colour, unstickered/liveried. After it was refused, the project changed direction and is now quite different. And it was more than 10 years ago.
RAH - it's not the kerb the problem but the lack of material behind it making the curb into a pernicious 'speed bump' ! As stated, from Friday afternoon we brought wooden plancks to help everybody with low cars and fat tums. I'll try better next time - the only worry if that they stick us in the middle of nowhere ! I spotted a place that I'd like first dibbs on - we'll see
Agreed, I wouldn't want to loose that location and be farmed out somewhere else like the Bugatti circuit very much away from the action. It's very convenient and well placed in my opinion, if we believe it will be an issue for some again in two years that's plenty of notice to come up with a solution to breach the kerbs defenses without further causalities!
Sean baby it was the kerb that was the problem ,the wood helped,two damaged cars says it all but a well done from us over here to you over there and Rob we was watching the racing ie the GT 40 s now They was quick and good to watch and probably like most people there we hadn’t a clue who was who and who won wot but that didn’t matter to us and all this talk about the sammy most people haven’t a clue wot you lot are on about when it comes to originality and in the real world they probably don’t care the main thing is Sean baby and his merry men put up a great show and we stayed in a quality chateau away from Sean and the rest of the peasants where we had cold beer,good food,swimming pool great weather and a killer duck,wot more could we ask for,update on my Zed,manifold gasket being done Tuesday,exhaust being made Wednesday then into the body shop still to be sorted,only complaint I have is the sun got in me eye
Jake RAH
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Yes a BRE on the front and a tall BRE on the rear, better known as a Victory.
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RAH - it's not the kerb the problem but the lack of material behind it making the curb into a pernicious 'speed bump' ! As stated, from Friday afternoon we brought wooden plancks to help everybody with low cars and fat tums. I'll try better next time - the only worry if that they stick us in the middle of nowhere ! I spotted a place that I'd like first dibbs on - we'll see
Agreed it was a tall 'speed bump'. It wasn't so bad going at an angle across it but straight on or off, naaaa. A nice location, but right in the pits would have been better
You've made me feel a little better
SeanDezart
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I don't know about you but I've already been in a Z in the pits twice, once at the wheel.
Honestly chaps, every Z that I saw (ie helped) over the kerb with planks passed ok - the idea was to extend the planks forward onto the tarmac to reduce the overall angle. I know it was very tight and w/o planks and help mine will also snag so I'm on it but it can only be the ACO who physically do something and frankly, we are small fry, the spot is tiny within the overall circuit and during other races it's either full of pizzed up bikers watching the 24hrs and Moto GP or gazebos.
We'll see.
SeanDezart
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Ok, false start Alan and wrongly assumed on my part. If you want to discuss this off forum and we make a combined effort on behalf and with the owner, I'm up and perhaps you could share a photo or three please ? I love the spec already albeit with all those useless plastic bits......