Just followed a 350z roadster

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SKiddell

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This has to be my favorite race 240 of all time, lets see your stripped out 350's and your ugly pugs beat this, even standing still its got them licked

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This is the Spirit Garage 240Z (featured in the best motoring series:rolleyes: ) its no set up though, this thing is serious, deadly serious and I want one, in fact I am just weighing up which part of my anatomy to sell in order to fund the build.
Triple 50 solex on an bored and stroked L24 giving 2751cc, 560 thou cam lift and steel internals has to be kicking out around 300+ Hp and weigh less than 1000 kilos
 
Russ

Russ

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But if you spent £20k modding your 350z then to be fair we'd have ANOTHER £20k to spend on the S30!!!

I'm about to upload a Best Motoring Spirit Garage wallpaper in honour of that car...
 
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SKiddell

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I'm about to upload a Best Motoring Spirit Garage wallpaper in honour of that car...
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All should kneel before the Spirit Garage altar and chant the mantra "we're not worthy".
 
SeanDezart

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TheMinel said:
Sean, so you spent 20k worth of mods on your S30? nice, wonder if I did that to my Z how many times it'd lap your S30 :D
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The car has been restored for that money and yes, some mods have been done but mostly where the cost of replacing original with original was similar - fact, it's cheaper to modify an S30 than reteun or keep to standard ! Maybe due to the fact that it is SO popular to improve ones' S30 and also very easy to do - could be because the standard S30 is crap - but then people wouldn't buy one in the first place - non - probably because it's the best car in the world :) !........and responds SO well to tuning !

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PS was in France last summer and people there just can't drive, is that the reason why you moved down there? ;) :D
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Where were you in France ? France is regional - people are strikingly different from one region to another ! Also France is twice the size of Great Britain for the same population, never mind how many times bigger it is compared to just England. The roads are great, open and overall last year, we lost 5,000 lives due to road accidents - how many in England ?

I visit the UK reasonably frequently and I now hate driving over there - aint no fun any more. Did you not have fun over here ? Should have turned that wuss ESP off mate :D !

As for the French being good or bad drivers - dunno but if they're bad, I'll just shine all that much brighter ;) !
 
SeanDezart

SeanDezart

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SKiddell said:
Triple 50 solex on an bored and stroked L24 giving 2751cc, 560 thou cam lift and steel internals has to be kicking out around 300+ Hp and weigh less than 1000 kilos
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There were Modsports cars over here 10 years ago producing more than that for the same weight - one was sold two years ago for £10,000 !

Are you left or right handed ?
 
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SKiddell

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There were Modsports cars over here 10 years ago producing more than that for the same weight
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Not from 2751 CC's there wasnt smarty pants, the one your on about was in excess of 3 litre
 
SeanDezart

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True - I was careful NOT to say that but it don't matter how many ccs you have - it's bhp that counts, doesn't it manTooBe ? And it was still over ten years ago ! Lot of time for engine evolution...or not !
 
Russ

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Looking at the small amount of surface rust on the Spirit Garage inlet trumpets I'd say the engines been like it for a while?
 
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SKiddell

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Sean, your posts are like a Nun on a unicycle -- Virgin on the ridiculous.

There were Modsports cars over here 10 years ago producing more than that for the same weight - one was sold two years ago for £10,000 !
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You may as well have said that the QEII produced 150,000 hp from a gas turbine -- it’s about as relevant. .

but it don't matter how many ccs you have it's bhp that counts
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Well that’s just plain daft, how can you race in specific categories, that have cubic capacity limits (like a heck of a lot of race series). What are you going to tell the scrutinisers in a 2 litre touring car race when they look at your 5 litre V8 "Oh its ok, Sean says CC’s don’t matter, its bhp that counts"

Further more by your logic, from an efficiency perspective, it wouldn’t matter either if I had an 8 litre producing 300 HP or a 3 litre producing 300 HP there both as good after all CC's don’t matter, “its bhp that counts".

Ironic as well that you accuse people of being fixated by BHP when you have just completely disregarded, torque, power delivery, throttle response, handling etc.


 
SeanDezart

SeanDezart

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The spirit garage Z is a race car is it not? So in what categaory ?

I take all your points - I was just surprised with the spec. you quoted that it wasn't closer to 350 bhp !
 
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Oh Damn II (with retakes), err, off the top of my head - will you be changing your diff. and gearbox (gearbox ratios) soon ?

At what point do you see yourself stopping the mods. in order to drop below 13.5 ? EG, will you be fitting the new (patent awaiting) Pmac 'eezy-out' passenger seat, removing headlining, cumbersome non-period seats (those seats are deffo. a reason for moving up a class......;) ?
 
TheMinel

TheMinel

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G'Zox Hasemi Nismo Nissan 350 Z [2,997cc tc, 500bhp, 1,080 kg]
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Motul Pitwork Nismo Nissan 350Z [2,997cc tc, 500bhp, 1,080 kg]
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Endless Advan Nissan 350Z [3,498cc, 340bhp, 1260 kg]
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CC Recaldent Advan Nissan 350Z [3,498cc, 350bhp, 1,145 kg]
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wonder why these guys don't use S30 anymore, if they are so superior? ;)
 
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SKiddell

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I guess I will never stop chasing quicker times but want to do it in a slightly different way to Pete (who is a man on a mission and has no style what so ever:p ) My aim (as was always) is to show just how quick an absolutely street legal Z, fully trimmed with a traditional engine format (normally aspirated, straight 6, single cam L series) can go, whilst still retaining a pleasant demeanour on the road, I really do think that with the right amount of focused work one could get into the 12's, that would require a slightly different engine capacity which I am reluctant to do, but may end up having to go that way. I also wanted to make the car look more aggressive as the stock Z whilst beautiful, is a little too "soft". There are several cars that do it for me, one being Sato Sans car, the other is the Spirit garage racer.

On the seat front, I was really impressed with the CF seats and how they supported/held in place whilst driving on the track and as they only weight about 7 kilos each I will leave alone.

I also really like the look of the ZG flared arch and after coomb we have identified a number of handling mods required.

Firstly I need to do a modification to the engine;) , then need to strip front and rear suspension out, fit rear camber bushes, fit adjustable platforms front and rear, fit new adjustable front control arms, fit new rear anti roll bar, fit new rear disk kit, fit brake balance kit, fit line lock, fit longer wheel studs, have my Image wheels widened with another set of 225x50x16 Toyo 888R tyres on (the 205x55x16 were awesome around Coomb on my Compomotives) Then get Gary Bellamy to fit some ZG flares (CF of course) and a new front air dam, put some paint on and hey presto.
 
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