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ZHead
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SeanDezart said:Photos please![/quote]
All I have so far Sean is a shell - nothing more, hardly worth posting any pictures, anyway, I am not going to until I embark on the project. Have the V8 one to finish first ..................
Mind you.................the shell is absolutely brand new and has never ever had a panel hung on it ...........................
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SeanDezart
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ZHead said:Get a move on with the V8 then !SeanDezart said:Photos please
All I have so far Sean is a shell - nothing more, hardly worth posting any pictures, anyway, I am not going to until I embark on the project. Have the V8 one to finish first ..................
will be a straight six L series that's all I know. Not even thinking about it until I have the first one out of the way. One thing that is for sure, I will want to try and push the boundaries a little with this car as well.
Not that sounds like a challengeZHead said:
SeanDezart
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With a 4.6 diff ????900ss said:Twin cam 2.4
Now that would be ultra phat
ZHead
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SeanDezart said:Not that sounds like a challenge
Wouldn't want to put you under that pressure Sean. Will let you have a few years of enjoyment before I roll out the Primrose killer
Would love to do silly stuff like supercharger or turbo but then it would not be eligible to race - actually have bugger all idea what it will be yet
SeanDezart
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It will be a while before your next lawnmower surfaces !ZHead said:Wouldn't want to put you under that pressure Sean. Will let you have a few years of enjoyment before I roll out the Primrose killer
Would love to do silly stuff like supercharger or turbo but then it would not be eligible to race - actually have bugger all idea what it will be yet
Why a supercharger ? That was my first thought back after I saw Tim Riley at Goodwood with one but a good 3.1 is just a good and less complicated ! Are you not numbers crazy - more power, more.....?
ZHead
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SeanDezart said:It will be a while before your next lawnmower surfaces !
Why a supercharger ? That was my first thought back after I saw Tim Riley at Goodwood with one but a good 3.1 is just a good and less complicated ! Are you not numbers crazy - more power, more.....?
Honestly, this is not even a project, just an idea to have an L Series engined car - no idea whether it will run carbs, TBs, turbo, supercharger - I will not even think about it seriously for a long long time. (It is unlikely to have forced induction in all honesty) Things like suspension, brakes etc are likely to be pretty much the same as the V8, the engine however...... who knows ? I don't yet.
A well sorted 3.1 should produce close on 300BHP which is oodles in a car weighing 1040KG.
The objective is not to produce more power, have bigger numbers or anything like that but like Skiddy, to try something different. It may be fairly standard, it may have new ideas but I do fancy different. That works for me.
SeanDezart
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Different would be a cross-flow head then - right ? 24 valves ? Even on a 2 litre 'cos everybody has a 2.8 or 3.1 nowadays ! Something really period that when you open the bonnet - Z fans'll go ooh, and arr
But forget racing !
But forget racing !
Devilpaint
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Sean its obvious you dont like Albrecht, but are you really so far up your own a*se, or is it just that you come across that way in print?
SeanDezart
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Devilpaint said:
What has what I wrote got to do with my Count ? How could you suggest insurgency against my liege lord ? My comments were fishing for ZHeads' future L series project - he mentioned that by having a supercharger he couldn't race !
Time for a purge my friend - there are several homeopathic laxatives available - don't jump to conclusions please.
SeanDezart
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ZHead said:
But it'd be fun speculating
Wanna start a new thread (instead of us hijacking this one) ?
ZHead
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This one is fine - it was only a "who pipped me at the post" thread anyway ......
As a reult of this thread I now have a 4.6 AND a BRAND NEW 4.8 NISMO LSD (no Alan, it's a different one to the one we spoke about) so am pleased I started it.
Speculation........hmmmm....... turbo would be nice as would a supercharger, LY cross flow or OS Giken twin cam would be fantastic from a historical perspective (although OS Giken was not original) but then you would need all the rest original and period to warrant such an engine.
A stroker engine would be fantastic too although there is precious little "new" in the arena of strokers these days.
Would be fun to investigate and learn about the best of the best Japanese L Series engines that are for fast road / track use and see if anything could be learned from there. I am sure there are tips, tricks, skills etc available over there that we may not have here.
Leaving your particular car or engine out of it, what would you see as pushing the boundaries ? Something fresh ? The ultimate ?
As a reult of this thread I now have a 4.6 AND a BRAND NEW 4.8 NISMO LSD (no Alan, it's a different one to the one we spoke about) so am pleased I started it.
Speculation........hmmmm....... turbo would be nice as would a supercharger, LY cross flow or OS Giken twin cam would be fantastic from a historical perspective (although OS Giken was not original) but then you would need all the rest original and period to warrant such an engine.
A stroker engine would be fantastic too although there is precious little "new" in the arena of strokers these days.
Would be fun to investigate and learn about the best of the best Japanese L Series engines that are for fast road / track use and see if anything could be learned from there. I am sure there are tips, tricks, skills etc available over there that we may not have here.
Leaving your particular car or engine out of it, what would you see as pushing the boundaries ? Something fresh ? The ultimate ?
SeanDezart
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1st question : go for cc 's or stay with a more modest (and period ?) cc ?
Ultimate implies not to be beaten and therefore my first choice would be go for a stroker BUT try something different on the induction. Turbos have all been explored and (imho) not in the style of the original car (all torque) so it would have to be either a super-charger (knowing you - two ) or a trick head (or both ?).
I understand what you say about 'new' in strokers - that's because it's a proven package and uses a 'std' head and carbs (TBs). Doing something different with a stroker is still possible !
Or, stay with a 2 litre (or 2.4) dohc engine and work harder to get the horses !
1st thoughts - and you ?
Ultimate implies not to be beaten
and therefore my first choice would be go for a stroker BUT try something different on the induction. Turbos have all been explored and (imho) not in the style of the original car (all torque) so it would have to be either a super-charger (knowing you - two ) or a trick head (or both ?).I understand what you say about 'new' in strokers - that's because it's a proven package and uses a 'std' head and carbs (TBs
). Doing something different with a stroker is still possible !Or, stay with a 2 litre (or 2.4) dohc engine and work harder to get the horses !
1st thoughts - and you ?
Here's one to try
The Nissan RB30 in normally aspirated form with a skyline RB25 head on it and of course throttle bodies.
Standard bottom end is good for at least 500 HP (it will withstand) so you wont break it, its an inline 6 and pretty much bolts straight up to a standard gearbox, with an RB head on it you will have a 24 valve twin cam that will make around 300 Hp (and withstand a 100 shot of nitrous without going into melt down) without silly spinny blowey things.
The Nissan RB30 in normally aspirated form with a skyline RB25 head on it and of course throttle bodies.
Standard bottom end is good for at least 500 HP (it will withstand) so you wont break it, its an inline 6 and pretty much bolts straight up to a standard gearbox, with an RB head on it you will have a 24 valve twin cam that will make around 300 Hp (and withstand a 100 shot of nitrous without going into melt down) without silly spinny blowey things.
ZHead
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I am already having a hybrid so the next project should be an L Series really, particularly when you bear in mind that the shell is brand spanking new, never had a panel hung on it and is chassis RLS30-00017
It was a spare shell sold by Nissan to Bob Sharp Racing in the States but it never got used, got sold to someone in New York where it sat for years and years, got sold to a UK owner where it sat for years and years in a barn, then I was fortunate enough to buy it. Of course there is slight surface rust but not too much, it is good and solid, even the wire tags for holding the loom are still straight where they have never been bent over.
It was a spare shell sold by Nissan to Bob Sharp Racing in the States but it never got used, got sold to someone in New York where it sat for years and years, got sold to a UK owner where it sat for years and years in a barn, then I was fortunate enough to buy it. Of course there is slight surface rust but not too much, it is good and solid, even the wire tags for holding the loom are still straight where they have never been bent over.
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