White LHD resto

johnymd

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I think I may do as other have and change to SU's. I do have a spare set that came off Darren's LHD car. Trouble is, I swapped my good set for these one as they couldn't get them working. I'll have to pull them apart and check all looks OK.

Roll on the next zed arriving tomorrow for pick up next week :)
 

datsfun

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Over here, the law is rather vague but in theory, one can sell up to 5-7ish cars a year before being considered a trader and even then, 'they' have to prove that you're set up as such and not just someone knocking out a car every now and then as opportunites present themeselves.

Over here, things are more progressed and advanced:smash:

There is substantial case law surrounding "badges of trade"..see attachment. And as you can expect the onus is on the tax payer to prove otherwise.

HMRC is aware of the cash economy and is slowly closing in. They now monitor EBAY Sellers as well;)..I suspect the introduction and digitalisation of the NOVA system will also be another tool for them to monitor imports.

Naturally each case is determined on its own merits and some folk never come under the radar. And they will ignore the old excuse,..."me mate Dave has been doin the same for years and no one bothers him! ..."

And yes I know, they should be chasing the large corporates and bankers who have millions stashed away and life isn't always fair:rolleyes:
 

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datsfun

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They'd be hard put to charge the poor sod capital gains tax after making a loss.....:D

This would come under "trading" and not capital gains banner...and yes if you make a loss, then it has its benefits elsewhere!

It's a nasty world out there...I know of someone who fell out with his neighbours and they let's say tipped off the tax man:smash:.

In his case, he had about 10 cars ( within 1 mile radius of his home) all with the for sale sticker in window
 

SeanDezart

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I know of someone who fell out with his neighbours and they let's say tipped off the tax man:smash:.

Guilty of being obtuse then !

It's a national pastime here, set up by Napoleon to make sure he got all the tax he could to pay for......his military campaigns.
 

johnymd

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At the moment I'm just collecting cars I love. There are many car collectors in the UK and I know a few that's have a lot more cars than me. Is Chris Evens a car dealer by trade? If he sells one of the cars from his collection does he pay HMRC a percentage of the difference between what he paid for the car and what its value has risen to? It seams to be a hobby of wealthy businessmen to have a few classics tucked away in the garage. Sometimes they sell a couple and replace with others. Are they car dealers?

At the moment I do not consider myself a car dealer but maybe things will change in the future. As soon as they do they I will be straight to my accounts so I can offset some of my car related expenses against a business. In fact it will probably be financially beneficial for me to do that now as I already spend a lot of my own money on classic car related stuff. I can see a visit to my accountants coming up.
 

johnymd

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On the subject of ebay. Not sure if anyone on this forum has used ebay to sell anything but be very careful as this is one of the top places HMRC are looking at the moment. If you don't sell more than 1 item a year then you should be OK but any more then you should make sure you keep the original purchase receipt for 5 years or HMRC may want 40% of what you sold it for. I think they can only go back 5 years so anything sold previous to that you should get away with. Luckily I don't sell more than 1 item a year so I'm OK.
 

datsfun

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Is Chris Evens a car dealer by trade? If he sells one of the cars from his collection does he pay HMRC a percentage of the difference between what he paid for the car and what its value has risen to? It seams to be a hobby of wealthy businessmen to have a few classics tucked away in the garage. Sometimes they sell a couple and replace with others. Are they car dealers?

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He will not be classified as a dealer per se...more of a collector. Any gains he makes will be under HMRC radar esp with the kind of money we are talking about and why wouldn't they? Same logic applies to other folk who indulge in other passions like art , old vine, buying and restoring real estate and flipping it etc:smash:...like I said earlier, there are multiple factors that need to add up before HMRC will make an assessment and if you can genuinely demonstrate that your assets are for personal consumption then all is well. And all this tax only kicks in when you dispose the goods. If you don't sell, nowt to worry....until you die and the dreaded inheritance tax kicks in!!
 
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johnymd

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Is the aircon cold?

Are you sure it leather coz it don't look like it in the picture.
 

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tel240z

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Oh yes genuine oxblood leather look with built in seat air conditioned vents for them hot days just like the Mercedes S class have
 

johnymd

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Your man that does seat repairs Tel. Send him the picture and see if he can stitch it back together. I'd like to keep all the old bit for originality as I don't want the car going on a Q plate.
 

johnymd

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Spent the day at Terry's and with the white car looking sad in the corner, I thought it time I made a proper start on it. The best place to start is always the worse area and for this car its the floors. First thing to do is remove all the underseal so you can see what's required in way of repairs. My preference for removing this is a hot air gun and scrapper. Having done a few Zeds I can tell you its easier on some cars than others. I started on the areas just inside the sills and with a little heat the underseal just fell off without using the scrapper, to reveal pristine original paint. The rest wasn't quite as easy and took 1 1/2hrs to do each side. Then I went over the whole area with thinners on a rag to remove what was left. I didn't remove it all and you can see a few bits in the photos but removed all that was needed. Removed some surface rust with an electric wire brush and I'm pretty happy with what I found. There's a few small bit that require attention but overall nothing to worry about and that's the worse job pretty much out the way. I'll finish this off next Saturday then move onto the engine bay and start stripping the car.
 

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Red7

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Spent the day at Terry's and with the white car looking sad in the corner, I thought it time I made a proper start on it. The best place to start is always the worse area and for this car its the floors. First thing to do is remove all the underseal so you can see what's required in way of repairs. My preference for removing this is a hot air gun and scrapper. Having done a few Zeds I can tell you its easier on some cars than others. I started on the areas just inside the sills and with a little heat the underseal just fell off without using the scrapper, to reveal pristine original paint. The rest wasn't quite as easy and took 1 1/2hrs to do each side. Then I went over the whole area with thinners on a rag to remove what was left. I didn't remove it all and you can see a few bits in the photos but removed all that was needed. Removed some surface rust with an electric wire brush and I'm pretty happy with what I found. There's a few small bit that require attention but overall nothing to worry about and that's the worse job pretty much out the way. I'll finish this off next Saturday then move onto the engine bay and start stripping the car.

That looks ace, you've done a cracking job there :thumbs:
 
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