US rear lights

johnymd

Club Member
Does anyone know the legality of using US style rear lights and have the red section flashing? Are there clauses in the mot that allow certain cars to pass without changing lights?
 

Andre

Well-Known Forum User
I still have my US spec rear lights on and had no trouble so far but the rozzers ain't followed me yet.
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
Usual question provokes the usual answer - what do UK imported Mustang and 'vette owners do ?
 

tel240z

Club Member
wrong answer...... what will the motorcycle rider say to the policeman when he has worn out his leathers saying the car changed lane without indicating :eek:
 

johnymd

Club Member
That's my point Sean and why I asked for opinions. They can get away with it so can I?. I'm not overly concerned about me driving the car as if the unthinkable happen and I end up in court I'd just employ a barrister and expert to prove that a flashing faded red light on one side is sufficient indication that I may be turning right and the average human brain would work this out. I more concerned about if I sell the car with a valid mot and someone points out that section 7 subsection 3 paragraph 12.3 say Ian Datsun 240z must have amber indicators because its not on the list of exceptions.
 

johnymd

Club Member
Do all your cars have the uk required front indicators mounted on the tops of the bumpers and approved upward faceing number plate lights then Terry?

These changes had to be made to uk cars or they couldn't be used on uk roads.
 

johnymd

Club Member
I must add, I'm not arguing for or against anything, just interested in people's views so I can make an informed choice as to what to do.

All comments welcome.
 

johnymd

Club Member
I looked at that yesterday Steve. Good info and probably the way to go but I would like to keep the flashing reds if it was allowed, not just if I could get away with it. I do have a couple of spare uk rear lights but would like to keep a US car looking like a US car.

Is this what you do with yours?
 
Put your indicator bulbs in the reverse light parts. you don't have to have reverse lights for an mot, if you've got them they have to work. Or just fit duel colour lamps in and have both.
 

8658kv

Club Member
I looked at that yesterday Steve. Good info and probably the way to go but I would like to keep the flashing reds if it was allowed, not just if I could get away with it. I do have a couple of spare uk rear lights but would like to keep a US car looking like a US car.

Is this what you do with yours?

Yes, have had them MOT'd with the flashing reds . Have always fitted UK spec lights or changed as Adam has on the link when selling.
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
wrong answer...... what will the motorcycle rider say to the policeman when he has worn out his leathers saying the car changed lane without indicating :eek:
He won't - dead men tell no tales.:D

You're only saying this whilst comparing to Euro specc-ed Zs - I don't think I've ever seen a US manufactured car with orange lenses !

http://www.madness-us-cars.com/vehicules-anciens/chevrolet-corvette-c1-1962.htm

and this Aussie Healey looks like it has all red lights :

http://www.dmclassiccars.co.uk/sold/austin-healey-bn1
 

tel240z

Club Member
Very good John I never knew the 350mm height rule for indicators :eek: although the number light rule is no longer current check your local transit rear door

moving on to the front indicators /side lamps some wiring is needed here as the u/s spec front indicators double up as amber side lights using as we know a stop and tail bulb and the headlamps will probably have no pilot side lamp in besides there going to be l/H drive items,

I do like your idea of a faded orangy rear lamp/indicator though
 

AliK

Vehicle Dating Officer
Staff member
Club Member
Try this JMD ....

http://www.the-ace.org.uk/mot-tightened-for-american-car-owners/

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Rob Gaskin

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Were old 'vettes ever sold here with orange indicators? If not that may be our problem Zs were and so the assumption is that lights are easily changed. :confused:

Put a USA sticker on it John to warn following motorists (helps with awareness of LHD too). :thumbs:

Terry I understand your point fully re motorcyclist but perhaps the law enforcers ought to consider the issue in the context of a 'risk assessment' i.e. how many are on the road, how often are they driven and how likely is a collision as a consequence. The greater risk is cars with 'blown' bulbs, drivers not even using their indicators etc etc.

Of course I realise too that a law is a law.
 

tel240z

Club Member
Were old 'vettes ever sold here with orange indicators? If not that may be our problem Zs were and so the assumption is that lights are easily changed. :confused:

Put a USA sticker on it John to warn following motorists (helps with awareness of LHD too). :thumbs:

Terry I understand your point fully re motorcyclist but perhaps the law enforcers ought to consider the issue in the context of a 'risk assessment' i.e. how many are on the road, how often are they driven and how likely is a collision as a consequence. The greater risk is cars with 'blown' bulbs, drivers not even using their indicators etc etc.

Of course I realise too that a law is a law.

Yes rob the law is the law, I on occasions do work for major international giant where the signs are in 7 different languages and the kerbs are painted yellow, now everything is fine until it goes wrong, that's when it all crawls out of the woodwork like when accident investigators find all the pieces of headlamp glass and stick them together to see if it was correct and aimed in the right place :eek: its an easy nick with results unlike a blown bulb, any how I shall probably leave my us cars wiring as it is with just the addition of white side lights in the headlamps and remove the side light from the indicator cluster
 

johnymd

Club Member
Good discussions and I've made my decision. Keep the US rear lights and put the indicator where the reverse lights are. Change the front headlight unit for ones with side lights. Change the front markers to indicators along with the under bumper ones. Put additional indicators above the bumpers so I don't end up being prosecuted as Terry has said.
 

tel240z

Club Member
Oh dear not allowed to have 2 indicators on each side to the front but you can have 2 on the back on each side.... sorry :eek:
 
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