Race prepped short engine on eBay

What do you want me to say ? Oh Ian - you're right ? This subject is about the object on Ebay not Ebay itself, I'm well aware of how Ebay works, in fact about any selling procedure. Keep on subject please !

If anyone here was serious about the block, they could ask DJ about its' history. He knows the block and the seller. If the seller didn't reply to anyone and certainly didn't give out nearly enough info. to make a decision at distance, the info WAS available if those who were interested asked the 'right' person. In this case, the 'right' person was he who knew, and knew more than the seller.

Case closed mate ! Someone either decided that a 'DJ' built block was worth the risk, or they asked him or they know nothing about Es but look at the buyers' Ebay feedback and what he's bought - no idiot !
 
mr P is right so is amocrace and so am i which puts you only partly right so we will let you off on this one,everyone is happy,wot a joyous world we live inn,think beutifull thoughts Sean Baby,got to go im dying for a peeeeeeeeeeeee
 
Sean I have to agree with Status, Ian is right here.

Buyers should not have to do all this research, for starters it makes them suspicious of the seller in not providing them with the basic info. and being unhelpful by not responding to emails, such as Skiddel mentioned (not sure if he did get back to him).

It's good that Dave can help identify it, but Dave doesn't know the engines current condition, which the seller fails to mention. When info is scarce people start thinking if the information was "conveniently" left out.
 
You're missing the point - all of you ! The info was available even if it wasn't from the source from which it should have been.

This is all about the word 'right'.

Mr P thinks 'right' means he who is selling the block.

I referred to he who put it together and perhaps to whom he sold it.

In any case, no-one would put this block directly into their car - would they ?

Mr P has a habit of arguing over words which represents to me all that is bad about this forum. This is just pedantics and goes around in circles !

Don't worry -I'll soon be off then you can all be right.
 
Should have read them a lot, lot earlier to someone else on another thread my friend but no matter - this is just virtual ! You two aint married or something ?
 
I may be missing the point here entirely and I don't mean to cause offence to any of the parties involved but how in the world were we to know that Dave had his hands on this block at any point? Or do we assume that DJ has at some point been a part of all UK reg'd Z's (and I mean this as absolutely no disrespect for Dave at all, I'm just asking a yes / no question). I think it's a bit weird to expect it of someone in the buyers market to ask someone who has an incredible/extensive knowledge of a particular engine whether or not they have any prior knowledge of it. Then again, suppose it doesn't hurt to ask (it's free to look at after all) which leads us right back around to the start. Clear as mud. I'd probably post up here if I was on the look out or had seen something that I was after and wasn't sure of so...

I don't know. £300 is a great price if it's what you're after. Whatever.
 
The seller hasn't done himself any favours and it's not correct that we have to go to the trouble to contact Dave and disturb him so that he answers questions on a block he may have made years ago.

The seller certainly knows how to post more information on his other auctions of ladies underwear which is under a fiver, then he knows about describing an engine he wants £300 plus for.
 
So.....just supose you asked Dave about this engine he sold/worked on some time ago and he confirms it is a good deal. You then buy the engine based on this, after having no replies from the seller. When you get the engine it turns out to be a totally different engine or parts have been changed and it no good. So, where do you stand then. The seller has not missled you. You just made assumptions based on a third parties information that they believed to be correct.

The only person that can provide valid and binding information about an item for sale is the seller.
 
johnymd said:
So.....just suppose you asked Dave about this engine he sold/worked on some time ago and he confirms it is a good deal. You then buy the engine based on this, after having no replies from the seller. When you get the engine it turns out to be a totally different engine or parts have been changed and it no good. So, where do you stand then. The seller has not mislead you. You just made assumptions based on a third parties information that they believed to be correct.

The only person that can provide valid and binding information about an item for sale is the seller.
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Now this is the most sensible reply we've had so far ;).

The above is just how I ended up with a pile of 5hit car when I bought my first 260 project, I took advice of a third party based on his knowledge of the car which turned out to be totally wrong, I don't blame him I blame myself for not going and looking at it first :eek:.

I had even looked at this block but didn't like the look of it, In my opinion it looked very unloved and tatty, Basically you'd be buying something you had to rip apart and completely rebuild so I didn't see any value in it.

As ever buyer beware.
 
Good points and never disputed ! Always buyer beware and the seller did himself no favours as more info generates more interest / more bids and more money !

I merely suggested that the person to ask was Dave (I know he wouldn't say - "yes, it's a great deal" - he's too prudent for that and anyone buying this should strip it down - doesn't that go without saying.....) who knows the seller and the engine. He might also have been able to give some clues to determine that it was the engine he built.

If there was a register of Daves' cars and engines built, this info could be verifed to avoid the codswallop risk quoted at the beginning of this thread. I state that it wouldn't serve to garauntee the current state of any car or engine.

You see that a register is NOT a list of great cars etc produced in order to gain value but a useful tool, I believe that a register of Samuri cars would help avoid people buying 'fakes' or sellers claiming them to be Sams. when they're not !

To label everything in terms of how much more it might be worth is to see just a fraction of the value of a register.

Earlier, I stated that this was a DJR block and thougt that that info. might help potential buyers here.

The next step to take was to call Dave and discuss, then contact the seller to view or ask some pertinant questions. All that was let down by an unresponsive seller so it was down to take the risk or not - someone did, I hope that they're not disappointed.

I suppose that someone will come along at lunchtime and ask "why should a seller state that it was prepared by DJR ?" - "why should that help the sale ?"........
 
I know it is before lunchtime but I would like to ask "why should a seller state that it was prepared by DJR ?" - "why should that help the sale ?"
 
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