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don't you just love th zg's....
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SeanDezart
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I think that the Count will correct me but that is not a 240ZG either (even if it left the factory with that body).
rahail240
Well-Known Forum User
which it obviously didn't.
if you look at the my avatar pic next to my name.
same car pre-surgery.
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
The point is that some cars DID leave the factory with a similar body and I don't think they were classed as ZGs.
Albrecht
Well-Known Forum User
The point is that some cars DID leave the factory with a similar body and I don't think they were classed as ZGs.
Sean,
Now you're even confusing me....... ( ?????!!!! ). What cars are you talking about?
My original point was that only factory built ZGs should be called ZGs. Anything else is - well - not a ZG. And what's with the lower case 'zg' thing too? Caps are correct, and free!
In Japan they have an eminently sensible attitude to this, and take great care to point out when a car is an original factory model, and when it isn't. That's why you see replicas - or just cars wearing something that looks a bit like a factory Grande Nose - described as such, and distinct from the real thing.
Its quite comical to see people criticising a factory body style that was produced simply to homologate parts for racing, when in their own forum signatures they have pics of cars wearing what appears to be the body of an old Indesit washing machine tacked onto them, suitably 'blended' with a couple of cans of Plastic Padding's finest. Reminds me of some of the poor old Zs that used to be all the rage in the Z Club, wearing Escort XR3 rear bumpers and sideskirts. Lovely! I'm sure that might even come back into fashion again one day ( even if only ironically ).
SeanDezart
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Sorry, I was referring to that white 'ZG racer' kit-car...replica or whatever in post no.40.
The cars (as per Kyalami +) were never known as ZGs....were they ? Just how many factory cars like those two were there ? Any private cars made up in similar fashion ?
The cars (as per Kyalami +) were never known as ZGs....were they ? Just how many factory cars like those two were there ? Any private cars made up in similar fashion ?
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rahail240
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sorry alan and co.
but it's just what i know them as when they have th zg, sorry, that thing on the front end!
maybe we could call it the ' wbzg' from now on ?
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
maybe we could call it the ' wbzg' from now on ?
:lol: Love it. I take it, that is short for "want to be a zg"
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
AND don't forget the mirrors.
Oh yes - my first Z had them like Prince Charles' ears - awful !
rahail240
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i think it looks very e type jag in this clip.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Nissan-Fairlady-240ZG_180824.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Nissan-Fairlady-240ZG_180824.htm
JakTheRuby
Club Member
Agreed. Nice though. Although that is quite a large over-hang, making the wheelbase look more towards the centre of the car.
Albrecht
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Measuring forward from the centre of the front wheels, the factory 240ZG model was 180mm longer than the 'standard' fronted models ( without over-riders ).
E-type Jag? If you parked them up side-by-side you'd see the differences in proportion quite easily, I think. Quite different.
rahail240
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your no doubt right alan,
but you know where i'm coming from with the general shape.
i just think the zg looks quite classy.
by the way alan is it only marugen (no doubt i've spelt that wrong!) who can supply the right lower section, with the correct airflow fins, on the g nose kits?
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JakTheRuby
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It's the chrome on the headlamp cowls that gives it the 'Jag' look (if indeed anything). The shape (in general) has a much more muscular stance than the E-Type. Ironic that the Jap car has a more cat-like 'pouncing' stance than the Jag.
Albrecht
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Marugen Shokai certainly make the best replica parts that I have seen. Other manufacturers make versions of course ( some better than others ) and these can be made to look very good, but even Marugen's 'basic' level stuff is just as good or better. Marugen's premium line stuff is just about as good as OEM - which was superb quality for the early 70s period.
Do remember that the 'Air Con' ducts were only present on 'Kouki' ZGs, and the 'Zenki' model ZGs ( like mine ) did not have them. They were a modification to the original design intended to alleviate under-cooling of the air con rads, and the resulting high engine bay temps.
As for the shape of the ZGs and their similarity to other cars, I think Italy was a prime inspiration - and that's certainly where the designers and stylists at Nissan were looking. Sometimes the S30-series Z can look like a missing link between the Ferrari 275 and 365, and the 'Grande' nose of the ZG makes the 275-influence look even stronger. But when it all comes down to it, I think the whole thing is just late Sixties Sports/GT design 'Zeitgeist' - where the styles of the day win out, and it looks like everybody is thinking along the same lines. You could argue that the ZG's front end treatment was perhaps two or three years out of date by the time it debuted, but at least it did address the aero issues present in the 'short nosed' cars, which were addressed more directly in the S130-series Z that followed.
SeanDezart
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Now, it's not often that this point is highlighted and NEVER in the press who quote just the weight gain etc !
