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Discussion in 'S30 (240Z / 260Z / 280Z)' started by tel240z, Nov 28, 2011.

  1. tel240z

    tel240z
    Z Club Member

    I have searched but can only find it in lbs so whats the different weights of early and later 240zs please
     
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  2. SeanDezart

    SeanDezart
    Z Club Member
    Official Trader

    I had one weighed last week (ex-USA car but now european in spec from 1973) and it came in at 1050kgs with 20litres of fuel !
     
  3. SKiddell

    SKiddell Well-Known Forum User

    Are you sure on that Sean, we weighed mine at Mallory park this year (scrutinisers area) and it tipped the scales at 1010 kilos 1/4 tank of fuel, no spare, Johnny Palmers and Darren's were much heavier
     
  4. Rob Gaskin

    Rob Gaskin Treasurer Staff Member Moderator

    Tel, are you ok with weights referenced out of a book?


    If you already know lbs why not convert to kgs?
     
  5. tel240z

    tel240z
    Z Club Member

    Rob i'm being plain lazy so am iright in thinking that an early 240 shell say up to number 400 is lighter, anyone know by how what amount
     
  6. pmac

    pmac Well-Known Forum User

    nice to see you in full southerener lazy git mode Tel.:rolleyes:

    the earlier shell will probably be lighter cos it doesnt have the matal platform and tool box lids in metal of the later shell,

    Anyway we had all better just wait til Albrecht comes along with the definive answer.:cool:

    He will want to know which market S30 you are referring to and what factory options were present etc etc.......:confused:... and to what series of shells does your 400 figure avtually refer ... cos without further clarifiaction you could well be comparing Apples with Ardvarks... and that will never to will it??:eek:


    (Ducks... n runs for cover......:D... we are not worthy etc etc:rofl:)
     
  7. tel240z

    tel240z
    Z Club Member

    How about HS30 - 00299 january 1970 OZ car sniff sniff
     
  8. SeanDezart

    SeanDezart
    Z Club Member
    Official Trader

    Hiya - that's what the guy quoted me - in fact he said 1120 kgs with him inside and he said he weighed 70kgs....I winked at him and laughed and he said, well, maybe 75. The fuel figure is probably right, maybe 25, there is a spare inside, R200 diff, lighter wheels but 7x15s on obviously heavier than standard tyres.

    Is it so off ?
     
  9. SKiddell

    SKiddell Well-Known Forum User

    It just sounds a little light thats all :unsure:, at the end of the day, with the amount of modifications we all embark on, its difficult to get a fix on what it should be, some definative info from Mr T would be an ideal starting point
     
  10. pmac

    pmac Well-Known Forum User

    OH!!! you have bought that shell then:confused::confused::confused:
     
  11. Albrecht

    Albrecht Well-Known Forum User

    This is an automated message. Albrecht is on strike for better pay and conditions.
     
  12. Albrecht

    Albrecht Well-Known Forum User

    [can't resist]No, you're not.

    That sounds like something off the Auto-Active website, which will be a load of old cobblers mixed with a bit of sales patter. Which number sequence was he talking about anyway?[/can't resist]

    [can't resist]January 1970, eh? Is that more Auto-Active sales blarney?
    What does the Compliance plate say? [/can't resist]
     
  13. Albrecht

    Albrecht Well-Known Forum User

    The only true 'lightweight' bodyshells from early production were the 'PZR' bodies of the PS30-SB Fairlady Z432-R models. Their rear quarter panels, roof skins, front wings and scuttle panels were made from one gauge thinner steel than other models, all other bolt-on panels were FRP and all glazing apart from front screen was Polycarbonate. No sound-deadening, and little in the way of interior trim.

    Most of the other 1969 through 1972 bare 'shells were about the same weight as eachother, give a Kg here or there. It was what was attached to them that made the difference.

    Factory quoted weight for 1972 production UK model 'HS30' ( 'Kerb Weight' = with oil, water and half tank of fuel ) = 1,038kg.

    Factory quoted weights for Japanese market models, all quoted for standard trans ( 4-speeds for 'S' models, and 5-speeds for all others ), with 'Standard' equipment levels and 'Dry' ( no oil, water, fuel ):

    S30-S Fairlady Z = 975kg
    S30 Fairlady Z-L = 995kg
    PS30 Fairlady Z432 = 1040kg
    HS30-S Fairlady 240Z = 985kg
    HS30 Fairlady 240Z-L = 1005kg
    HS30-H Fairlady 240ZG = 1010kg

    *Accessories / Options will affect weight.
     
  14. tel240z

    tel240z
    Z Club Member

    Compliance plate being the non printed plate about the same size as the chassis plate with stamped numbers on it ? 1/70
     
  15. Albrecht

    Albrecht Well-Known Forum User

    That's the one. Stamped and attached to the vehicle in Australia.

    The problem is that the '1/70' Compliance date does not tie in with the likely production date according to known data. There was only one 'HS30' prefixed number sequence for the Export cars to fall into line with, and - from all we know - 'HS30-00299' would not have rolled off the production line in January 1970.

    If you ask about it on the Australian forum ( www.viczcar.com ) I'm sure they'll fill you in. Perhaps literally.....
     
  16. tel240z

    tel240z
    Z Club Member

    Well that makes sense then as the export papers state 1969 manfuactured

    Thanks alan
     
  17. franky

    franky Well-Known Forum User

    How much stiffer are the later shells then?
     
  18. tel240z

    tel240z
    Z Club Member

    Well probably Pete, it comes with a vented tailgate and some other bits i may build a rally replica :lol: no only joking who knows why i need a jig anyway for my next project or i could put it with this

    well if it would let me upload photos , stay tuned
     
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  19. Albrecht

    Albrecht Well-Known Forum User

    You're talking about the papers that came with the car from Australia to UK?

    I think you should take that 1969 date with a huge pinch of salt. Don't know who wrote it ( although I might guess ), but it's probably more to do with wishful thinking than reality.

    According to Nissan Shatai's own production data, only three 'HS30' prefixed cars were made up to the end of 1969 ( as opposed to over 500 'HLS30' prefixed and over 900 'S30' and 'PS30' prefixed ) so you'd have to ask where the other 290-odd 'HS30' prefixed 'shells built in 1969 had been hiding. The truth is of course that HS30-00299 could not have been built in 1969 at all.....

    Production of HS30-00299 was quite probably well into 1970.
     
  20. vpulsar

    vpulsar Well-Known Forum User

    Does it really matter :confused:, Who really cares :unsure:.

    Some of you guys really need to get out more ;).




    Rob
     

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