DonMuscles
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So you really can not comment..
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a 'Nut and Bolt' restoration. A how to guide.
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STEVE BURNS
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But if you keep beating your pupil around the head sometimes it does not have the effect desired
Personally I agree that the shell is what should be sorted first but hey ho It is Don's car,Don's money and also Don's choice of how he does it
I personally Hope he succeeds with the task he has set himself and will not knock his efforts in any way at all
After all it is a free world and as such he is entitled to choose how to do his restoration
As an aside I remember some people who in the early 90s had at that time years more ownership experience than me teaching me that Goertz designed the Z but after a trip to the States in the mid 90s discovered that they did not quite know everything
Albrecht
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There is no pupil/teacher relationship going on in this thread. If you really think there is, I suggest you go back to the beginning and read the thread through again.
STEVE BURNS said:
This sounds like the happy clappy 'everyone's a winner because nobody's allowed to come second' type new age PC nonsense in full effect. Unfortunately it doesn't work down the MOT station, it doesn't work with the insurance company and it certainly doesn't work when cars are bought and sold. Hopefully it doesn't work with Z Club valuations either.
The car in question is rusted far beyond the relatively quick weld-up and paint job that the owner seems to be thinking of. It's actually gone in all the most nasty to repair places as well as the usual structural points. This much is plainly visible from the photos that have been posted here, and yet the owner is blithely ignoring it all while he messes about with stuff that's just ephemeral. He's talking about buying generic parts to use in the restoration (EG the window rubbers, FFS!) like it's a bloody London bus or something. The choices of parts and level of work I've seen in this thread are poor, verging on the ridiculous in light of the "best in UK" text that's being put alongside them. A Workmate in the back garden isn't going to cut it either.
So I'll call it out as such rather than pat the guy on the back and tell him he's doing great like he's some kind of toddler with his first set of crayons. That way hopefully we'll see the standard of work going up and better cars in the *community*. I suggest The Z Club and its members should be doing the same as a matter of policy.
Albrecht
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In answer to your aside I'll say this: I've never been to the USA. These are Japanese cars. My personal Road To Damascus experience came when I went to Japan for the first time.
If you want to find the source of the river, walk upstream, not down.
STEVE BURNS
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Unfortunately I have never been to Japan or have any understanding of the Japanese language( that is not to say I understand a lot of the American Language) but on my trip to America I did learn a bit about the falsehood about the Goertz myth that I would not have heard about for quite a few years later as it was generally accepted in the UK that Goertz was all things in the Z design
And as such I consider myself lucky to have at least in my own mind discovered personally some element of the Truth (all be it from the Dreaded USA) on dispelling a common held belief
We are up over 800 posts now - wait until the bodywork starts. 
richiep
Club Member
Please God no.
The most appropriate smilie for the direction this build thread is taking:
There has been much sage advice delivered here - that has been steadfastly and stubbornly (albeit very cheerily) ignored with an underlying "I know better" theme.
Frankly, I think Don is ignoring people's input at his own peril, but it's his financial funeral.
TBH, the best use for that car is as a parts car to RHD-convert a cheap but structurally sound 260Z or 280Z import. The end result would be far more satisfying and cost effective. Or part out and cut one's losses before getting in too deep. Not that I think that advice will be heeded either...
Alphabettispaghetti
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It's not just a case of the rear seats and an extra 12". Put it side by side with a two seater.
DonMuscles
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I was taking the ****....
Seeing if anyone would bite...
Looool.
Seeing if anyone would bite...
Looool.
I would just like to add one post in order to participate in what will be (is?) a historic thread in the annuls of the z website. A little nudge to the 1000th post.
Whilst this is Don's thread I commend Albrecht for playing the Ernie Wise straight man role to Don's Eric Morcambe. Well done to all the players and supporting cast.
Whilst this is Don's thread I commend Albrecht for playing the Ernie Wise straight man role to Don's Eric Morcambe. Well done to all the players and supporting cast.
Albrecht
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It's Franky's thread. Don Muscles has a supporting cast role heavy in bathos, but his car's the star.
Albrecht
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Quoted for sound judgment and truth.
Onwards and upwards to the heady 1000th. One for every hole in the car.
I actually find myself hurrying home from work just to read this thread. It sure makes my day in my mundane little life when I get home to discover another 3 or 4 pages of bickering. I honestly cannot wait to see what is going to happen when the bodywork is started.
By the way, I am Team Don all the way. Always root for the underdog.
By the way, I am Team Don all the way. Always root for the underdog.
DonMuscles
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Lol....
Love that SuperMik!!
Hurrying home from work.....
I like to think of it as a erratic and fast growing debate and combination of opinions combined into a build thread..
Keeps me laughing throughout the day!!
Such is why my girlfriend keeps asking me what I am laughing at, so I shareit with her...
She thinks it is funny too.
Yes I can not wait until it is all done any the bodywork is done too.
Love that SuperMik!!
Hurrying home from work.....
I like to think of it as a erratic and fast growing debate and combination of opinions combined into a build thread..
Keeps me laughing throughout the day!!
Such is why my girlfriend keeps asking me what I am laughing at, so I shareit with her...
She thinks it is funny too.
Yes I can not wait until it is all done any the bodywork is done too.
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
The irony that I started the thread with has continued it seems.
DonMuscles
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Just got my wheels...
A lovely gentleman called Richard just dropped them off for me!
Will try them on tomorrow maybe if the weather is better...
A lovely gentleman called Richard just dropped them off for me!
Will try them on tomorrow maybe if the weather is better...
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