How much is a Z worth?

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BlueZmobile

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Following on from a previous thread the question was asked as to the value of Big Sam since further work has been carried out by JD Classics. I know exactly what value JD Classics have placed on Big Sam as I viewed the car in the summer, I also know exactly what value they have placed on FFA 196L.

A little competition, everyone have a guess as to how much JD want for Big Sam and I'll buy a pint and a pie for the closest guess!:cheers:

Plus, what do we think Z's are worth or should be worth compared to other classics from the 70's?
 
if you see wot a MK1 Lotus cortina,or a MK1 twin cam escort would go for,knock about K10-K12 off there asking price and you wont be far out,thats in the real world
 
I'm not sure about the price, but I think they may be s bigger gap between the two than Dave's guess.
I'm very interested to hear the actual figures though.
 
How much JD want for Big Sam
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So are they for sale then?

I thought the plan was to keep them together as a pair from now on..??

Still trying to find out if they bought James Morris SMR too :unsure:

Im sure that in one of my emails with tham earlier this year they mentioned insurance value on Big Sam of £300K :eek:
 
240z's are constantly creeping up in value, well at least over the past 18+months, i'm pretty sure they'll continue too as they get harder and harder to find. For value on an individual car I guess it depends on how much mig wire is/was needed along with how original it is.

The lack of panels etc doesn't help people but will push the values up for cars requiring less.

The values of the two above? No one knows as it'll depend which way the winds blowing at auction.
 
Didn't realise that you had actually started a new thread on this one, BlueZmobile, so I offered my opinionated thoughts on your old thread.

When do we find out who has actually won ?
 
rallymanDP said:
So.....bearing in mind that they have both been extensively rebuilt since being purchased ( not that FFA needed it ), and regardless of how much that process actually cost ( based on either the charged -out rate or the real cost to the Business ), I would suggest that the true Market Value for either of them would be approaching £90-95k.

Anyone agree ?
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I would agree with your "market value" Duncan.......but I'd expect JD Classics to place a value of 2 >> 3 times the purchase price they paid for the cars if someone wanted to buy them
 
How long shall we leave this open for?

I'll give you all some help, I offered £150k for Big Sam as it stood, which was engine out, blown up and in pieces, the rest of the car was in excellent condition and with a few tweaks would be as competitive as Fourways' Blue Modsports Z. My offer was well off the mark as to what they willing to sell for. A little more help, they would look for an additional £25k plus if they rebuilt the engine, run it in on the dyno, and put back into the beast.
 
They're on another planet - just speculators.

How much is a Z worth....a normal Z that you and I might drive around - THAT is the title of the thread so let's limit it to 240Zs, no Samuris, UK original cars and/or imports.

For a top-notch 240Z whether standard or rally sat-nav spec or 'fast-road' with some serious tech-spec (not just some s/h L28 and a cheap set of triples) I count upon £30k.

Serious competition spec you can go up to double that BUT will people pay it ? - Call it £45k.

Middle of the road Zs, club-cars I'll call them - call it £15-20k

Sams.....£25-30k whatever the spec and if in good nick.

Anyone ?

ps already answered like Duncan on the other thread re JDClassics' Zs.
 
JD Classics where looking for offers in excess of £250k for Big Sam with the engine in pieces on the floor and offers in excess of £275 if engine rebuilt and back in the car. Not sure if anybody deserves a pie and pint for being so far off, but if anyone wants to make claim I am more than happy to sit down when we cross paths. FFA 196L was offered to me for £150k.

Personally, for what it is worth, I would say that there is an argument that Big Sam or an ex works rally Z with proper history could be worth £200k plus. A top quality Z with something different about, say FIA paperwork and 'properly' prepped for rally/race with all the bits on £75k/£100k, I would go with Sean's description of "top notch" but place the value at £50k plus going down from there. Argument being why would a Z be worth any less than Porsche of the same era, or proper Escorts ie RS etc.

Why is a bottle of wine that I paid £40 for 25 years ago now worth £800 plus, it looks the same, I certainly don't notice it tasting any different and if anyone would prefer to share a bottle of wine instead of the pie and a pint you had better hurry because I'm down to my last bottle and it is calling my name loudly.
 
A new bottle from Aldi less than a fiver,and thats a saving of £795 bargain,as for the ford comparison,its because the Zeds are wot some people still call JAP ****,they will never be in the same price catergorie as a ford or Porsche,but we know better dont we ,so we are the winners really, cos we have a hidden gem,i should know as ive had all the boy racer fords in the 70s and they dont compare with a 240-260
 
SeanDezart said:
They're on another planet - just speculators.

How much is a Z worth....a normal Z that you and I might drive around - THAT is the title of the thread so let's limit it to 240Zs, no Samuris, UK original cars and/or imports.

For a top-notch 240Z whether standard or rally sat-nav spec or 'fast-road' with some serious tech-spec (not just some s/h L28 and a cheap set of triples) I count upon £30k.

Serious competition spec you can go up to double that BUT will people pay it ? - Call it £45k.

Middle of the road Zs, club-cars I'll call them - call it £15-20k

Sams.....£25-30k whatever the spec and if in good nick.

Anyone ?

ps already answered like Duncan on the other thread re JDClassics' Zs.
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Hasn't someone said they'd offered 150k for big Sam? So that'd put the 'value' somewhere between the auction price(+house fee's) and 150k? I'm sure we've all been to auctions where some things have gone far too cheap and others have gone for too much, a lot of it is to do with publicity and the wind direction on the day.

What I don't understand is the values of Samuri's, if anything I *think* it hits a particular generation here in the UK. I only say this as I can't see them really being worth the same/more than some of the factory special editions.
 
Cant beat a pint of lager old boy,anyway wot franky says about the same or more than some of the factory special editions is probably right,some of us have Zeds that would slaughter a samuri as they have modern day bits and bobs on em,some people would pay more for something like that than get in something that will not drive as good or be as quick,it is all about wot somebody is willing to pay,that is wot your zed is worth at the end of the day, 150k +. your aving a laugh,puts my Zed and many others on here also worth as much as a house,
 
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Cant beat a pint of lager old boy,anyway wot franky says about the same or more than some of the factory special editions is probably right,some of us have Zeds that would slaughter a samuri as they have modern day bits and bobs on em,some people would pay more for something like that than get in something that will not drive as good or be as quick,it is all about wot somebody is willing to pay,that is wot your zed is worth at the end of the day, 150k +. your aving a laugh,puts my Zed and many others on here also worth as much as a house,
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Maybe your car is worth a bundle more than you give it credit for. I've been offered £60k for one of mine and turned it down. As you rightly say value is what someone is willing to pay and what another is willing to sell for. Pint of lager sounds good to me.
 
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