Taz 1
Well-Known Forum User
Diesel
Hi Andy,
The likelihood of the type of incident you describe actually happening is, I should think, very remote. Sadly the incidence of diesel spillage and the accidents it often provokes are still quite common. A very large pileup in a small town was recently reported in the press and on the news and diesel was the cause.
Anti spill caps are in use but seem to be fitted to new/newer vehicles, leaving a great many older vehicles, many of which may not have fitted them.
Sadly toxic batteries are an issue, as many of the components are highly toxic and require great care and considerable expense to recycle them, do you not remember the Union Carbide disaster in India? A great many died and many have suffered since from the aftereffects and there have been other smaller less well reported incidents. Battery technology has indeed moved on but is still a considerable problem, life span, recycling etc and many of these problems have not been fully resolved.
Sean and I brought up the issue of batteries and I pursued it with him because I found his idea interesting, after all an awful lot of money and research time is being put into it and I wanted to know what Sean is thinking. It's a complex subject and one I thought worth exploring in a friendly manner, nothing is intended to be confrontational, it's just a discussion and I'm glad you have joined in.
Sorry but I have to disagree, smoke blowing lorries and buses are not a thing of the past, I see them all the time. However I agree that the sooner the cleaner burning more modern diesel vehicles get on the roads and the older ones off the better.
Trains were mentioned (albeit only briefly in passing) earlier in this thread as were ships many of which burn diesel and are seldom mentioned.
The issues here affect us all, we in the club and others like us choose to drive performance vehicles, tuned or not these vehicles are no slouches and burn a lot of petrol, sooner or later we must consider our alternatives. So why not discuss it, sometimes such discussions' provoke a lot of ideas and where better than on a forum about performance cars? And sometimes it's fun to just test the water and yourself against other peoples ideas.
This is getting stupid now lol. Petrol is FAR more dangerous due to being so flamable! If you had a petrol spilage on a roundabout and someone threw a cigarette stub out of their window the consequences would be unthinkable! Diesel spillages are caused by lorries over-filling at the depo to reduce stops at over priced filling stations, maybe its time someone invented an anti-spill cap for their tanks?
Toxic batteries? Not an issue as all of the internal components can be recycled and turned into brand new motability scooter powaaah
Anyway, batteries aren't the issue here, diesel is! Diesel engine designers have made MASSIVE steps forwards in recent years and the old smoke blowing bus engines etc are a thing of the past, its just a case of giving them time to get the newer buses on the roads..... The sooner the better though IMO
Talking of dirty diesel burning engines, why has nobody brought diesel-electric trains up yet? :lol:
Cheers,
Andy
Hi Andy,
The likelihood of the type of incident you describe actually happening is, I should think, very remote. Sadly the incidence of diesel spillage and the accidents it often provokes are still quite common. A very large pileup in a small town was recently reported in the press and on the news and diesel was the cause.
Anti spill caps are in use but seem to be fitted to new/newer vehicles, leaving a great many older vehicles, many of which may not have fitted them.
Sadly toxic batteries are an issue, as many of the components are highly toxic and require great care and considerable expense to recycle them, do you not remember the Union Carbide disaster in India? A great many died and many have suffered since from the aftereffects and there have been other smaller less well reported incidents. Battery technology has indeed moved on but is still a considerable problem, life span, recycling etc and many of these problems have not been fully resolved.
Sean and I brought up the issue of batteries and I pursued it with him because I found his idea interesting, after all an awful lot of money and research time is being put into it and I wanted to know what Sean is thinking. It's a complex subject and one I thought worth exploring in a friendly manner, nothing is intended to be confrontational, it's just a discussion and I'm glad you have joined in.
Sorry but I have to disagree, smoke blowing lorries and buses are not a thing of the past, I see them all the time. However I agree that the sooner the cleaner burning more modern diesel vehicles get on the roads and the older ones off the better.
Trains were mentioned (albeit only briefly in passing) earlier in this thread as were ships many of which burn diesel and are seldom mentioned.
The issues here affect us all, we in the club and others like us choose to drive performance vehicles, tuned or not these vehicles are no slouches and burn a lot of petrol, sooner or later we must consider our alternatives. So why not discuss it, sometimes such discussions' provoke a lot of ideas and where better than on a forum about performance cars? And sometimes it's fun to just test the water and yourself against other peoples ideas.
