Dale, the orange does still 'Light my fire' so I can't argue that. Plus it's now a flavour (we call it 'Classic TangerineTM') so it's all good. Black and orange for me is as sweet as it gets (that's why I did that first, a long way back). I remember peeps getting upset first and then realising it's the 'way of the tiger'. Once you see that it all becomes clear! I love 'em all (as you do with all your kids!) so I tend to dive around all of them. When I think one is not getting as much love I change over and feel all good again. Now being a zclub member is like parenting for beginners. Oh my!