Throttle bodies vs carbs

No no no, the ultimate test is the touge racing (think downhill hill climb)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touge

Not only do you have the bends and some straights, you also have to manage a car that accelerates without you! Try going down Cheddar gorge and you'll see what I mean.
 
Ok, I'll try and make my point again.

If drag racing is a measure only of power (and weight) and not of brakes and handling, then how does a lap time measure brakes and handling ?

Lets use a hillclimb as an example.

Bens car does the run in say 1 minute. The next one does it in 58 seconds - does this mean it brakes and handles better ? Or is it just making up time between the corners ?
 
ben240z said:
................ the celebrated competitors , their cars and the races have always been in circles - does that tell you something or are those blinkers THAT wide ?
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Read what I write carefully Ben !


"The majority of the tracks are purpose laid tarmac of race track spec. ............................ Statistically you are more likely to pick up damage on a track day than at any of these sports."

A track day is not necessarily all cars on at the same time in which case, statistically, a hill-climb event is more likely to entail damage to your car - NOT purpose laid tarmac and plenty of run off space !

Rob - you've missed the boat ! Enjoying ones' car and measuring it's performance is not about getting ones' calculator out !

"......does this mean it brakes and handles better ? Or is it just making up time between the corners ?" What is the difference here ? How would you make up the time ?
 
SeanDezart said:
Rob - you've missed the boat ! Enjoying ones' car and measuring it's performance is not about getting ones' calculator out !
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Ok, but you do have your stop-watch out - so why ?

SeanDezart said:
"......does this mean it brakes and handles better ? Or is it just making up time between the corners ?" What is the difference here ? How would you make up the time ?
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The bits in between corners are known as straights, they may not be perfectly straight, but straight enough to not have to worry about handling.

Car 1 is quick through the bends because it has good road holding, but loses out a little because it is under-powered.
Car 2 isn't so quick through the bends but has massive power and accellerates very quickly between the two corners.

The amount of time gained by car 1 through the bends is lost on the straight by car 2's greater horse power.
 
Well, there are cars that are as powerful but handle better, then there are cars that brake better. A faster car may have to brake earlier and therefore the slower but better handling, braking car is quicker on the lap - it's called an all-round package and 'Vettes don't have it !

A well sorted car can be worth up to 2.5 seconds a lap (same car, same driver) !

Best method is to have it all - power, lightweight, braking and handling....and not be a stupid driver !
 
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