Albrecht
Well-Known Forum User
I've sat in a GTX moded to a GTR spec...
In what way was it "GTR spec"?
I've sat in a GTX moded to a GTR spec...
found it
a bit more of the same, put the sound on high
Alan, can you educate me on how to tell the difference? and what the more standard version of the car is called?
I'd heard that it may have just had the badge fitted however this confirms. Pressume the genuine GTR's also had the S20 engine making them few and far between?
Damn! Just seen this thread and kicking myself. Looks like a great event - would have loved to have been there. Next time!
I'm not sure people realise just how different the PGC10 and KPGC10 models were from their sibling models. It was far more than a different engine and different badges. Big topic, but I'll try to give a brief explanation via the differences between a 'KGC10' model Skyline GT or GTX vs a 'KPGC10' model Skyline GT-R:
Here's what a KGc10 looked like on the showroom floor:
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...and here's what a KPGC10 looked like on the showroom floor:
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Parts/specs unique to the KPGC10:
GT-R-specific bodyshell with dedicated pressings and rear FRP 'overfenders'.
'S20' 2-litre twin cam 24-valve straight six engine with triple Mikuni N40PHH carburettors, stainless 6-branch tubular exhaust manifold, Mitsubishi CDI electronic ignition, twin exhaust system. Close ratio 5-speed O/D transmission. 4.44 ratio R192 differential with plate LSD. 'Fast' ratio steering box. Aluminium radiator. 100 litre fuel tank, electric fuel pump. GT-R-specific springs, dampers and anti roll bars. Clear, untinted glass. GT-R-specific front 'bucket' seats, dedicated interior trim pieces. 'Delete' items including exterior trim sections, hubcaps, radio & antenna, dipping interior mirror. GT-R-specific exterior mirrors and interior instrumentation/controls. 'TOPY' steel wheels and GT-R-specific tyres. That's just off the top of my head.
'KGC10' (note the missing 'P' code in the chassis prefix) GT and GTX models were fitted with the L20A 2-litre 12-valve SOHC engine (same basic family as - for example - L24) but GT had single downdraught carburettor and 4-speed transmission, whilst GTX had twin SU-type Hitachi carburettors and 5-speed transmission. GTX was essentially a full fat 'Deluxe' late model with all the typical bells and whistles, including electric windows.
If you look at the list of dedicated parts for the GT-R (and not forgetting the dedicated bodyshell itself) it makes it clear that talk of "converting to GT-R spec" is a nonsense. What we are talking about are ten-metre lookalikes dining out on the reputation and history of the genuine article.
Hey how's it going? I hope you've sorted that fuel filler pipe to expansion tank issue out since the other week. It looked very dangerous to me If you need a diagram of how it should be set up let me know or see the Haynes manual page 43
Total C10-series Skyline production, 1968 through 1973 = 400,000+
Total C10-series Skyline GT-R models (PGC10 and KPGC10) 1969 through 1972 = 1,945
"You do the math".
Hey how's it going? I hope you've sorted that fuel filler pipe to expansion tank issue out since the other week. It looked very dangerous to me If you need a diagram of how it should be set up let me know or see the Haynes manual page 43