Spoiler option

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2fast2z

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And what did you then do with the one with duct ?, is it up for grabs.
I believe the original BRE was with ducts CDM On-Line Catalog atleast according to Les Cannady.

Chris
 
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FilipeA240z

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Hi Chris

I think a 240z with the rear and front spoiler looks cool, but that`s only my opinion and your car will be your car.
I also like the looks of the Sean 240z, and many others that i saw and i see in internet forums, but i put mine as it was delivery over here, with the 2 spoilers.


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Just an idea... but you just have to feel happy with your car.
 
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2fast2z

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Filipe, your car is almost as it left the factory 1 week ago and it is a Euro model, if it was mine, i would do the same as you.
I could bring mine to stock US specs, but i prefer to do some bolt on mods, like Euro stuff, bigger engine and so on, so i will go for a more agressiv look.

How is the wife?
Chris
 
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SeanDezart

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Every Z is personal - I hate the bonnet badge and I've already had a Z with the front (Samuri) and rear spoiler and loved it but time for a change !

ps : anyone recognise the fat plonker with the glass of water ?

pps I sold the BRE ducted - some people like them.:lol:
 
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SeanDezart

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In practice, I would have thought that BRE started with solid spoilers then introduced ducts when he realised that under racing conditions, the brakes were getting hotter due to a lack of air cooling.......wouldn't that be logical ?
 
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2fast2z

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Sounds logic, tell you what, i will ask Les, sometimes he is a little hard to get hold on, so it may take some time.

Chris
 
SeanDezart

SeanDezart

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Chris,

read page 38 of Car and Drivers' On Datsun Z 1600 nad 2000 1966 - 1984 in the article about adding front and rear spoilers.

Copy here.



Two versions - competition with ducts and smooth (presumably street version) without.
 
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2fast2z

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Sean, the article don't say much, it only tells that there is two versions as a aftermarked spoiler, the best thing is that now i know the original Nissan is of no use.
Ive got a answer from Les Cannady, remember he is deep in to Z's and roadsters and also races them.
Here is the answer (copy and pasted from my inbox on CZCC)

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Originally Posted by 2 fast 2 Z
Hi Les
I know you have other things to attend to, but i hope you will take the time to answer this question.
On another board we are talking BRE spook, the discussion is about whenever the original spook is with duct or not, or why it is changed, i know you make a spook from the original mold and believe you are the right to answer this.

Please let me know.
Chris
Chris
The original spoiler that Peter Brock had made all had ducts for brake cooling and mine all have the ducts for brakes and i have no idea where the ones without ducts may have come from. original racing spoilers actually had the top half of the duct covered so you could attach a hose to go to the brakes. Over the years the top half of the duct was removed and the spoiler could be used for street use either way. The real BRE spoilers also were a little deeper and had enough materiel to go back under the radiator support and have 3 additional screws for strength. I hope that helps with your discussion and i have been following it sometimes. Take care and enjoy!!!
Les
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This must be the answer to the duct question, but each to his own, some like the mother some the daughter, that's just how it is, a matter of taste.

Chris
 
SeanDezart

SeanDezart

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Thanks for that - now we know. However, I'll pick up on what you said about the original Nissan one. I believe that the lower your car is, the more efficient the Nissan one becomes (as opposed to having nothing).

However, if YOU are keeping more or less standard ride height, you're gonna feel a bigger difference using the Spook. BUT you won't NEED the ducts - just a matter of YOUR taste.

I still haven't ruled out a fibre-glass 'standard' spoiler but I do like the BRE ductless look.

Rear spoilers..........
 
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samuri-240

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SeanDezart said:
Rear spoilers..........
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Well for me yes. I guess thats what we grew up with in the uk they where fitted as std apart from to the first 2 cars registered I think. When the US imports started arriving without one they looked abit strange, Saying that, now they look ok with or without. Front spoilers I don't think anyone has got that quite right yet, if someone designed one that really matched the rest of the cars styling he/she would sell them like hot cakes :D Thinking caps on peeps :lol:
 
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SeanDezart

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samuri-240 said:
...........Front spoilers I don't think anyone has got that quite right yet, if someone designed one that really matched the rest of the cars styling he/she would sell them like hot cakes :D Thinking caps on peeps :lol:
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But everyones' taste is different and people would fit something they liked even if it's not efficient !

I still think that the std Sam. front spoiler is the dogs (if you're into the spoiler look) !
 
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samuri-240

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SeanDezart said:
But everyones' taste is different and people would fit something they liked even if it's not efficient !

I still think that the std Sam. front spoiler is the dogs (if you're into the spoiler look) !
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Everyone's taste is different but when something is right its right & it is to everyone's taste if you know what I mean :D
Datsun did not get it right in this area in the first place !!! you like Sam fr spoilers I do also along with many many other guys I know, I've been thinking & I have a plan (watch this space) :eek: ;)
 
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2fast2z

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Sean, isn't the first pictured spoiler the same as Caen Fred have? all this spoiler stuff is a matter of taste and when it comes to looks i personally like the fourways spoiler and also the BRE, i don't want to wait until a fourways show up, being i like to get the car more steady now, so i will go for a BRE to start with because there doesen't seem to be other alternatives for my taste right now and regarding the duct, i don't mind, i might change my mind when first installed, time will tell.

Chris

Still looking for a fourways
 
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SeanDezart

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Yes Chris, Fred (who live an hour away from me) and I did a 'group' buy direct from Japan. I wasn't convinced and now mine is in the UK on a race car and I'm still looking - MY problem is that the Z looks so sleek without that I find it hard to change that look.......maybe I won't but I need to have exhausted all alternatives.

I found that the BRE style spoiler I had (photo above) looked large and 'clumsy' - too big and fussy.

Stupid question but have you asked Geoff at 4ways if they have a spoiler available ?
 
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