S31 (Denmark)

[jonbills]

I mentioned the rust Jon and only because in the youtube video the guy mentions rust but doesn't elaborate. The car didn't seam right with the 240z rear lights on car that was clearly latter. Not saying there is a problem with the car but its probably not for me.

How'd you find the youtube videos John?

 

[johnymd]

search google for: s31 fairlady z or click here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuES38OcsnQ

 

[SeanDezart]

OK, "Albrecht's" is ambiguous because it could be an abbreviation of "Albrecht his" OR "Albrecht is". The context removes the ambiguity - "Albrecht is radar says..." is gibberish, so we know he meant "the radar of Albrecht says..."

Albrechts' is not ambiguous because it's a plural noun, and the plural form of the verb to be is 'are', and so you can't abbreviate "Albrechts are" to Albrechts'. Albrechts' radar is the radar belonging to Albrechts.
(the same construct is also used on singular nouns that end in 's', in which case I think the ambiguity may be possible again). Albrecht with his award may know more

But it is semantically wrong because the Albrecht in question is singular.

We also know that 'Albrecht his radar' is incorrect English, ambiguity or not - rules are rules.

Jules' radar not Jules's or Juless'. Albrecht is a singular and not plural nown.

The blokes' radar = ok (plural and singular)

The bloke's radar = not ok (pluaral and singular).

Europes' radar = ok.

An S31 must be rare in Europe so rust or not, surely worth buying ? RHD from the factory too...worth more than all those cheapo LHD imports...

 

[jonbills]

Err, no.

 

[SeanDezart]

No...what ?

 

[jonbills]

No, it's never ok to indicate possession by a singular noun (which doesn't end in s) with an s' ending.
E.G. Blokes' radar can only mean the radar of a group of blokes.
Try google search for europes'. Even using the verbatim tools I couldn't find an example of that spelling on the web. 'Cos it's wrong

 

[SeanDezart]

No, it's never ok to indicate possession by a singular noun (which doesn't end in s) with an s' ending.
E.G. Blokes' radar can only mean the radar of a group of blokes.
Try google search for europes'. Even using the verbatim tools I couldn't find an example of that spelling on the web. 'Cos it's wrong

So if one bloke, one must write bloke's radar ?

I'm gutted............but appreciate the lesson.

 

[jonbills]

Yes, 'fraid so.

 

[Albrecht]

An S31 must be rare in Europe so rust or not, surely worth buying ? RHD from the factory too...worth more than all those cheapo LHD imports...

Totally depends on the price. A fresh paintjob over what may potentially be poorly executed sheetmetal repairs is a bit fur coat and no knickers...

The FRP front wings don't fit very well, the FRP bonnet looks pretty gash on the inside and there's lots of other things that are spoiling the ship for ha'porth of tar. Makes me think that it's flattering to deceive.

The 'agent' in the video clearly had little idea what he was looking at. It appears too (?) that the car was imported to Denmark as a commercial proposition, and bought from one of the large Japanese auctions (very few really good classics slip through the net at those auctions, in my personal experience). The seller is getting out of it quite soon after buying it. Lots of alarm bells ringing for me.

But, it all depends on the price....

 

[SeanDezart]

a bit fur coat and no knickers...

Yes, inviting.

So, price, we're saying that it IS interesting as a future UK car but with bells ringing, it's a bit pricey to take the risk.

And the L3.0 - anything known about that - who built it etc ?

 

[Albrecht]

a bit fur coat and no knickers...

Yes, inviting.

After you then, Claude...

So, price, we're saying that it IS interesting as a future UK car but with bells ringing, it's a bit pricey to take the risk.

And the L3.0 - anything known about that - who built it etc ?

Nothing known by me. And I'm guessing that - as with so many cars that go through the big Japanese auctions - it will have shed most of its history and documentary evidence on the way through the system. The auction inspection sheets are compiled by well-meaning auction minions, but most of it is a description of the car as it stands.

'Sold As Seen' usually applies.

 

[SeanDezart]

After you then, Claude....

".....in another moment down went xxxxx after it, never once considering how in the world .he was to get out again."

 

[morbias]

Were there different interior options (aside from the seat upholstery)? Can't quite make it out from the lefthand pics.

 

[SeanDezart]

Surprised to see the 'wooden' wheel - I thought that they'd be '260-ish' at that period.

 

[Albrecht]

Were there different interior options (aside from the seat upholstery)? Can't quite make it out from the lefthand pics.

Interior details were linked to the 3 sub-variant packages. Basically, 'standard', luxury and then a little more luxury. It all got quite complicated by this time, with electric remote-adjust mirrors, electric windows, eyeball light etc on the 'T' models, and extra-cost optional on Deluxes. Still somewhat basic on the Std models, but not as spartan as they were in 1969 ( at least they had hubcaps...).

I think the best way to follow it all is to look in the relevant factory parts manuals. Hundreds of different parts!

 

[morbias]

I had no idea they ever came with electric windows from the factory, I've seen some of the electric mirrors for sale before though, they certainly weren't cheap!

So were these options all JDM specific or did other countries get some of them too?

@Sean - the 'wooden' wheel looks so much more classy doesn't it, so does that horn push!

 

[SeanDezart]

I'd love to see a table not only of available JDM S30 AND S31 models but which options were available for which models from which periods.

All quite useless to apply to export models but all the better to understand the overall picture and not rely upon the 'designed in, made for the USA' info in English that saturates the internet and influences the lazy journalists....