North East - GTR Heritage Centre open day

AD240Z

AD240Z

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Albrecht said:
By huge coincidence I happened to walk onto the stand when two groups of people were walking around the KGC10 and talking about "the first GTR"...

No. I think it is much more likely that the plates the car was wearing were a major part in leading people to think they were looking at a KPGC10 rather than a recently modified KGC10 with almost nothing in common with the GT-R's specs:

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To make it clear: I'm saying that a lack of attention to detail at Nissan UK was mixed with The GTR Heritage Centre's apparent willingness to blur the lines about their KGC10, and all the holes in the cheese lined up.

I very much doubt Nissan UK's press department would set out to deceive, but I could easily imagine that they were all too easily misled. Bear in mind that Nissan UK has had a genuine KPGC10 representing their heritage at Goodwood events in the past: Once at the Festival of Speed's Press Day, and twice at the Revival Meeting. Genuine cars are available to them, and they have used them before 2016.
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Getting back to the original point I was making - is it really that important to the people who ( " In any case, most people who know their onions can tell a 'lookey likey' from The Real Thing at 20 paces" ) dont know ( or dont indeed care enough to educate themselves about ) their onions?


If they were buying it i wholeheartedly agree .

They went to a car event , saw some nice cars ( possibly even some wrongly badged lotus cortinas ) , had a hot dog , took a selfie and left maybe not even knowing/caring if they had or hadnt seen a GT-R.

The GT-R Heritage Centre clearly didn't care enough to remove the sign - and got some good publicity .
Nissan UK - Ditto .


The person who really knows his onions saw a carrot , and was right there on hand to offer some advice ....................................

If the event ( Post 1 ) goes ahead - I'd be more than happy ( although perhaps underqualified ) to have those discussions with those present and report back .



I might even go along in my Datsun 240z Fairlady R432 Cosworth .
 
Alphabettispaghetti

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Robbie J said:
but you did enjoy it?

having sex with a condom on is still having sex...
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you enjoyed it, still feel short changed as you've not had the real thing. the following day you know that people were excited and had a great time. you know that it wasn't the real thing.

your analogy was an interesting one, its the one that shows the difference. its still sex, its not as good as it gets. you're a 70% man, thats fine, you'll probably live a happier life that way. you'll never understand the 100%'ers
 
Robbie J

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franky said:
you enjoyed it, still feel short changed as you've not had the real thing. the following day you know that people were excited and had a great time. you know that it wasn't the real thing.

your analogy was an interesting one, its the one that shows the difference. its still sex, its not as good as it gets. you're a 70% man, thats fine, you'll probably live a happier life that way. you'll never understand the 100%'ers
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Interesting take yourself there, where did 70% come from? We all know it's about who you are with? Well, that's what my wife tells me....
 
AD240Z

AD240Z

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Now the thread has taken a turn EXTRA:), so before the sensitive moderating souls lock it ......................


I have no idea what a 100%er is - or how wearing a condom makes you a 70%er ?

Albrecht is of course correct that the KGC10 should have had a better sign (even if its just so the aficionados arent offended and the non-onion experts ( who i still think dont care) arent mislead.

I don't have any vested interest in this .
I've lived in the North East my whole life , and there has never ( to my knowledge ) been an event based around this particlular area of automotive interest.
I've ony ever encountered a couple of 240's in the wild - and it would be great if this event succeeds .

Ill try and be there - and will wear a condom if that makes anyone more comfortable .
 
Albrecht

Albrecht

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AD240Z said:
I've lived in the North East my whole life , and there has never ( to my knowledge ) been an event based around this particlular area of automotive interest.
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I'm not sure I understand exactly what 'area of automotive interest' this event is going to be based on?

Japanese cars? Old Japanese cars? How old? The company's business is - please correct me if I'm wrong - mostly involved with R32/33/34 series cars.

There have been plenty of events/shows/trackdays/meet-ups with that kind of focus over the years. I wouldn't imagine the North East has been that cut off from civilisation, surely?

I have to be honest and say that I'm always slightly sceptical when a business promotes itself with an organised 'show' type event. It's like they are somehow taking vicarious ownership of a scene and the cars/people within it, and all for - let's face it - their commercial gain. If I attended with one of my cars, is my car promoting their business by association? Something not quite right about it all...
 
AD240Z

AD240Z

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Albrecht said:
I'm not sure I understand exactly what 'area of automotive interest' this event is going to be based on?

Japanese cars? Old Japanese cars? How old? The company's business is - please correct me if I'm wrong - mostly involved with R32/33/34 series cars.

There have been plenty of events/shows/trackdays/meet-ups with that kind of focus over the years. I wouldn't imagine the North East has been that cut off from civilisation, surely?

I have to be honest and say that I'm always slightly sceptical when a business promotes itself with an organised 'show' type event. It's like they are somehow taking vicarious ownership of a scene and the cars/people within it, and all for - let's face it - their commercial gain. If I attended with one of my cars, is my car promoting their business by association? Something not quite right about it all...
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What nonsense - something not right about it . Is there any difference between that and say a genuine KPGC-10 owner allowing their car to promote their ( global car manufacturing ) business at a car event ?

Those owners happy to whore their cars out for large corporate manufacturers commercial gain - but not acceptable to do so for a small local garage who committed the sin of swapping a few badges and signs ( seemingly with the full support of said global manufacturer ) ?
Shame on them .

If businesses like ths with the means and desire to arrange an event - are willing and capable to do so - is that not a good thing ? And is it wrong they benefit from doing so if they put in the effort ?
Is that not what motorsport sponsors do - and would we have the same level of motorsport without it?

Perhaps you could stick your neck out and arrange something with a focus that suits you - i'd travel to that and maybe we could all learn something .

You appear to have answered youself as what cars may be present - and its elsewhere in this thread that they work on other cars .
How old ? It doesnt matter to me in truth - my interest isnt limited to a specific range . If its not for you ( and you ve indicated you arent interested ) - feel free to jog on .

If your not able to draw inference from the discussion , I suspect there will be a lot of R32/33/34 series cars there - and hopefully a lot of others . Hopefully a few S30's from owners on here .........

Sadly Albrecht - I 've been attending car shows across the North East for 20 + years and I'm generally the only Datsun owner present . Hence my interest and starting the thread .
 
Albrecht

Albrecht

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AD240Z said:
What nonsense - something not right about it . Is there any difference between that and say a genuine KPGC-10 owner allowing their car to promote their ( global car manufacturing ) business at a car event ?
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Well, as Nissan built it in the first place - and it is seen as a key part of their history and heritage - then I'd say they have the first dibs in curating that history and heritage. Seems apt to me.

uk66fastback said:
Albrecht is overthinking it all imo!
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Possibly. But having had to sweep up after a few clangers dropped by 'The GTR Heritage Centre', maybe I'm just a little bit biased?

:cheers: Alternative views are available:

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