Ebay Nissan Fairlady

richiep

Club Member
Saw it earlier. Highly likely to have been a US serviceman’s car bought new in Japan and then brought home. Had the US rear marker lights added and lost a lot of its external JDM features (emblems, grille, etc.).

Assuming it is a genuine S31 Fairlady Z, I hope any buyer restores it sympathetically and does the research rather than just hybridZ it or dress it up as a 260Z, etc. It is a rare version in this country.

As a JDM obsessive, if I hadn’t bought the RA25 Celica this year, I’d probably be all over this to ensure it gets restored “right”.
 

Mr.G

Club Member
"There are no signs of any previous body repairs or welding patches".

What about cutting in side markers, filling in mirrors and any emblem holes.
 

richiep

Club Member
Looks very tired - needs a full restoration and therefore the asking price is at least £5k too much.
True, re: the resto, but there is the fact that it is a JDM car and you ain't going to get a car like that for 10k in Japan anymore. That boat has sailed! JDM car values are not comparable to US or UK/Euro at this point if you were trying to get one from Japan, whether project or turn-key car. The variance here is that the car has had a long-term detour via the US and has been bastardised quite a bit. Makes it challenging from a value perspective. It's worth more than a US spec car, but lack of familiarity/understanding of what it is makes it maybe a harder sell compared to a UK car? Finished article would IMO be worth more due to rarity. Lots of pluses and minuses to take account of...

Also, worth noting that the missing cosmetic bits - if restoring faithfully - aren't cheap either. Fairlady Z emblems, (later spec) mesh grille, proper fender mirrors (and this car will have had the later style ones, not the ones most are familiar with) etc., all expensive. Listing needs some photos fixing, as there are a lot that aren't showing - presumably interior and engine shots. Having been in Arizona for most of its life, the interior could be a major expense due to perished plastics, etc. Nice that there's an L20 available for absolute purity - although having the L28 on board is an obvious plus from a bhp perspective!

Ugh. Might mention this to the wife - although I know the reaction is likely to be hostile and put me in the doghouse for even having brought it up...
 

Mr Tenno

Digital Officer
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Ugh. Might mention this to the wife - although I know the reaction is likely to be hostile and put me in the doghouse for even having brought it up...

Was thinking the same EXTRA:D

Agree more photos would be better - would be really interesting if it had the factory electric windows etc.
 

Geoff-R

Club Member
Ugh. Might mention this to the wife - although I know the reaction is likely to be hostile and put me in the doghouse for even having brought it up...

Not worth it, who hasn't had an argument with their wife over a Datsun before, most car purchases have bought me a week of the silent treatment FOC :rofl: (will mention it's probably my fault)
 

dcrobbo

Club Member
True, re: the resto, but there is the fact that it is a JDM car and you ain't going to get a car like that for 10k in Japan anymore. That boat has sailed! JDM car values are not comparable to US or UK/Euro at this point if you were trying to get one from Japan, whether project or turn-key car. The variance here is that the car has had a long-term detour via the US and has been bastardised quite a bit. Makes it challenging from a value perspective. It's worth more than a US spec car, but lack of familiarity/understanding of what it is makes it maybe a harder sell compared to a UK car? Finished article would IMO be worth more due to rarity. Lots of pluses and minuses to take account of...

Also, worth noting that the missing cosmetic bits - if restoring faithfully - aren't cheap either. Fairlady Z emblems, (later spec) mesh grille, proper fender mirrors (and this car will have had the later style ones, not the ones most are familiar with) etc., all expensive. Listing needs some photos fixing, as there are a lot that aren't showing - presumably interior and engine shots. Having been in Arizona for most of its life, the interior could be a major expense due to perished plastics, etc. Nice that there's an L20 available for absolute purity - although having the L28 on board is an obvious plus from a bhp perspective!

Ugh. Might mention this to the wife - although I know the reaction is likely to be hostile and put me in the doghouse for even having brought it up...

Really found your input very interesting, and I think the car is certainly an unusual non run off the mill, viable project for some one in this Club..
 

Mark N

Club Member
most car purchases have bought me a week of the silent treatment

I can't help but think that is a win-win outcome to give you uninterrupted time with your new project, your missus sounds awesome!
I've always gone by the 'better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission' approach.
It doesn't hurt to throw the 'investment' spin in there too.
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
... would be really interesting if it had the factory electric windows etc.

Huh ?

True, re: the resto, but there is the fact that it is a JDM car and you ain't going to get a car like that for 10k in Japan anymore. That boat has sailed! JDM car values are not comparable to US or UK/Euro at this point if you were trying to get one from Japan, whether project or turn-key car. The variance here is that the car has had a long-term detour via the US and has been bastardised quite a bit. Makes it challenging from a value perspective.

So, it ought to be exported to Japan but, and the big but it's so far from JDM spec now, that perceived value is debateable ! I see some snob value in saying it was once a JDM car but book value.....nah !

It's worth more than a US spec car, but lack of familiarity/understanding of what it is makes it maybe a harder sell compared to a UK car? Finished article would IMO be worth more due to rarity. Lots of pluses and minuses to take account of...
Not worth more than a US car here but in the UK obviously for no steering wheel swapping = less expensive but it's up for £15k and has rust and whatever, wouldn't a £10k clean and later converted car be better value ?

, worth noting that the missing cosmetic bits - if restoring faithfully - aren't cheap either. Fairlady Z emblems, (later spec) mesh grille, proper fender mirrors (and this car will have had the later style ones, not the ones most are familiar with) etc., all expensive. Listing needs some photos fixing, as there are a lot that aren't showing - presumably interior and engine shots. Having been in Arizona for most of its life, the interior could be a major expense due to perished plastics, etc. Nice that there's an L20 available for absolute purity - although having the L28 on board is an obvious plus from a bhp perspective!
Well, in my view, either it's value is because of it's originality and that includes the L20E or it's just another modded or swapped S30.

. Might mention this to the wife - although I know the reaction is likely to be hostile and put me in the doghouse for even having brought it up...

You're mad - I'm with Mark N on this one; I don't mention my purchases to mine - this merely limits the time she can (and will) nag, asking me why and when will I sell it !

To sum up, this is no bargain and should not be lightly entered into.
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
Yes. You know, the type that go up and down at the flick of a switch.

In some cases they also go in one ear and out the other...

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Danke mein Graf - new one on me - never reached my ears before ! The image shows a manual lever so was it an option on all S31s and stock (thanks Mr T) on Z-Ts ? Electric fender mirrors too ?
 

Albrecht

Well-Known Forum User
The image shows a manual lever so was it an option on all S31s and stock (thanks Mr T) on Z-Ts ? Electric fender mirrors too ?

Stock on Z-T models and not available as an option on the other two trim variants.

Power windows is second item down on RH side of this S31 options list. Black circle denotes stock equipment, black triangle denotes extra cost option and blank means not available on that model:

S31 options.jpg

Power mirrors is 5th item from bottom on LH side, so - again - stock on the Z-T models and NA on others.
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
I can only imagine how hard Z-T exclusive parts would be to replace if they're missing.

How about...in Japan ?

I'm blown away Alan - never knew all that and I've always felt sad for the rather generally unknown S31s (outside of Japan) as even most books go from S30 to S130 and some forget the 280Z or that the 260Z outside of NA carried on 'til '78. Thanks for that - shows how gadgets were phased in rather than nothing in '78 to all in '79 !
 

richiep

Club Member
I mentioned it - after having just taken her a brew and lunch (she's having a "duvet day" off work). Her first utterance was "F##K OFF!".

Predictably.

A consequence of my own spare cash reserves being presently low enough to mean such a purchase would require application of "our" money - and thus be subject to female veto power. Plus the small matter of a recent 20-something grand Celica purchase... (plus all the extra goodies I've bought for that one)
 
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