Competition steering .

[Olive.R]

Hey guys and gals ,
Frenchie again .
Competition steering for sale ! Used for a week and reverse to the original .
£250 OBO . Good luck !

 

[datsfun]

You have PM

 

[JK240]

US Repro?

 

[Albrecht]

US Repro?

Maybe *via* USA, but origin of repros/copies more likely to be China.

Early 1970s originals - as well as the NISMO 10th Anniversary limited-edition remakes - were made by OEM Nissan steering wheel manufacturer Izumi.

 

[Olive.R]

Hey Guys,
Sorry for late reply .
Unfortunately it is gone anyway
FYI : It was from the Z store CAL .

 

[JK240]

Hey Guys,
Sorry for late reply .
Unfortunately it is gone anyway
FYI : It was from the Z store CAL .

Maybe *via* USA, but origin of repros/copies more likely to be China.

Early 1970s originals - as well as the NISMO 10th Anniversary limited-edition remakes - were made by OEM Nissan steering wheel manufacturer Izumi.

Thanks Alan, the word 'pedant' really was invented just for you wasn't it

So a likely chinese made US supplied repro then...

JK

 

[JK240]

Hey Guys,
Sorry for late reply .
Unfortunately it is gone anyway
FYI : It was from the Z store CAL .

Thats fine I was just curious, I have a NISMO 10th anniversary limited edition wheel made by OEM Nissan steering wheel manufacturer Izumi.

JK

 

[SeanDezart]

Maybe *via* USA, but origin of repros/copies more likely to be China.

Zstore, CAL : These wheels were reproduced using the original Nissan mold, then wrapped in black composite material with the texture of leather to look just like the original competition units.

Source : https://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/classic08d07d/50-3154

Another US distributor advertising shares the same clues :

This limited replica is made from the original production molds. These are not leather-wrapped like the first generation wheels; rather, they are the more common and popular urethane type.

Caution: There are small rough spots on the rear surface of the wheel. These are from the vacuum injection process and are present even on genuine Nissan examples
Since it is completely normal for this item, we cannot accept any returns of this item citing this issue

source : https://jdm-car-parts.com/products/...sun-240z-260z-280z-510?variant=13657908543597

So, if these repros/copies originated in China (as you infer but do you have facts or just another supposition ?), then some entrepreneur must have passed them the mold from Japan - no ?

Or the publicity is woefully economical with the truth and these were knocked off a mold made from a genuine article, again...perhaps, from a Japanese entrepreneur ?

Hardly surprising to see repros/copies or as these might be more aptly termed, 'in the style of', when the genuine articles command such astronomical prices and the rest of the world would like to share the same look !

I'd be curious to know, please, which and when the genuine wheels were leather and vacuum-injected composite material - were they sold in parallel or one after the other ?

 

[Albrecht]

Zstore, CAL : These wheels were reproduced using the original Nissan mold...

Nissan never had the mold. The wheels were manufactured for Nissan by Izumi in Shinagawa Tokyo. Izumi also sold their own-brand steering wheels, and had patented the pressure-moulded wood composite process for the OEM Nissan 'wood rim' wheels.

These are not leather-wrapped like the first generation wheels; rather, they are the more common and popular urethane type.

None of the "first generation" (1969-up) 'Datsun Compe' Izumi steering wheels were leather wrapped. None. They all - originally - used the moulded urethane grip, with 'leather look' skin and moulded-in faux stitch detail. Hand stitched leather would have made them far too expensive, and time-consuming to make. For that customer, Nissan offered the MACH brand steering wheels.

But all of this is - of course - mere pedantry.

I just got some apples from Waitrose. They must grow them out the back, behind the recycling bins.

 

[SeanDezart]

Thanks for that - I've always found pedants to be an accurate source of finite-detail info, very handy.

So, some U.S.B.S advertising but the fact remains that someone began with a genuine wheel, passing it to another Asian country from which to produce a mold and thereafter mass-produce these - can we therefore call them replicas ? because :

"There are small rough spots on the rear surface of the wheel............(which)......are present even on genuine Nissan examples"

 

[SeanDezart]

Maybe they were reproduced in Thailand ? https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Very-Rare-J...603882?hash=item1aa8b54daa:g:JrYAAOSwrpheZX90

Another but in wood from 'Japan' : https://www.ebay.com/itm/DATSUN-COM...-S130-Z-ZL-432-Natural-real-wood/153534790136 (looks a bit 'chunky' !)

Italy ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Competitio...Pickup-Steering-Wheel-MoMo-Nardi/164663597024