Toyoya GT86 and the 260Z

On a related issue, some article content on Japanese Nostalgic Car suggests that Nissan are getting cold feet on the next generation Z. There was some discussion a while ago about them looking at concepts of a lighter, smaller displacement Z more in the S30 vein - also with the aim of offering competition to the 86. They also developed the Nissan IDx concept - basically a 21st Century 510. However, the IDx has been mothballed permanently and the talk suggests the Z might be going the same way. So, I don't think anyone should be surprised if the 370Z doesn't get a replacement.

Looks as if Nissan, GT-R excepted, are well and truly focused on the 'car-as-household-appliance' market (to their detriment)...
 
richiep said:
On a related issue, some article content on Japanese Nostalgic Car suggests that Nissan are getting cold feet on the next generation Z. There was some discussion a while ago about them looking at concepts of a lighter, smaller displacement Z more in the S30 vein - also with the aim of offering competition to the 86. They also developed the Nissan IDx concept - basically a 21st Century 510. However, the IDx has been mothballed permanently and the talk suggests the Z might be going the same way. So, I don't think anyone should be surprised if the 370Z doesn't get a replacement.

Looks as if Nissan, GT-R excepted, are well and truly focused on the 'car-as-household-appliance' market (to their detriment)...
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The new Pulsar is proof of that Rich.

My view on the narrow tyres of the 86 is that they go some-way to making it more drivable and fun. I've always said that for road use the 370Z wheels are too wide - but as Club members know I'm not a fan of huge wheels.
 
IMO the trouble with the 86 is the wheels look far too small for the arches. Its as if they designed it for much bigger wheels but then put small ones on it knowing everyone would change them (unless they don't care how bad the car looks).
 
johnymd said:
IMO the trouble with the 86 is the wheels look far too small for the arches. Its as if they designed it for much bigger wheels but then put small ones on it knowing everyone would change them (unless they don't care how bad the car looks).
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In Japan, Toyota offer a base model 86 that comes with steel wheels - precisely because they expect the owner to change them.
 
Nissan may well be concentrating on the Nismo versions of run of the day cars - Juke already and expect more....rather than pure sportives !
They're keen to boost up and make the most of the Nismo 'badge' already being promulgated via the GT-R.

Nissan should have produced the MX-5 and should have produced the GT86 - back in the past they were experts in identifying and exploiting niche markets into which to sell high volumes......hard to create a market, better to look them out ! ;-)
 
I like them, I also like the wheel size, they're bloody good fun to drive. Everyone in todays world is use to not having to work for things(speed wise!), given most TDI cars are quick and have mega mid-range. The one I drove was a nice change, it really needed revving, and felt lively. Its the initial price that ruined it I think, they've come down a fair bit but it might be too little too late.
 
Should've kept me white 240,or me green in,can see the lines more unlike my burgundy Zee with a copper flip under the paint,draft
 
I actually don't like them. I haven't driven one and I'm sure they are fun but astetically no. Obviously they are a homage to toyotas AE86 of yester year and cult following. You can kind of see this in the lines, kind of. It's the marketing side that is most simular. It's a small displacement, 4cyl rwd car that weighs less than 1300kg that's unusual in today's market. It's also priced competively, they know and virtually encourage this to be a modifiers car.
Now why don't I like it visually? I liked the press pics before it came out...I don't like the back, the spoiler is dreadfully ugly and the wheels look like they came straight from max power they don't appear to belong to the car. Infact it's almost like spotty dave has already got his mits on it and unleashed the halfords on it, a but fussy and ill thought out. Personally I think toyota would have done better to keep it simpler. Maybe they got over excited, maybe there were too many chefs in the kitchen in the design stage who knows.
I have no doubt however though that it will get a cult following and that it will become a classic of sorts in years to come. It's different and it will divide opinions, at least soneone is making affordable rwd cars though as they are disappearing from the market. I did hear BMW are set to make all new models fwd aside from some M cars....
 
RIDDLER said:
Very interesting, Sean - particularly the last couple of comments he makes.
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What this:

The original 240Z is not really a pure sports car :smash:

The Toyota is a great car though but why does everyone talk about that instead of the Subaru it's based on (or is that just the engine)?
 
This said it well at the bottom of the article ...

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