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NO ! Emphatically NO !


Check out who currently owns Samuri Conversions Ltd on the Companies House website
 
who knows :D Gotta get the first "new breed" V8 Samuri built first :D

And yes Spike knows all about it :D
 
These guys were in Chelmsford previously and were AKA as Quantum Motorsport before this. Z32 specialists (and other Japanese machinery), no links whatsoever with Samuri.
 
All the best of luck to you mate. Look forward to seeing the Samuri for the new millenium.
 
Was going to keep my mouth shut which as you will have worked out by now I find difficult to do :D

I have spoken to Spike who after all IS the legend of Samuri and he would like to see the name back again and to have some involvement, however, no formal arrangements have been made. He has however offered to do all of the headwork on the L series engines.

All Samuri Conversions Ltd is at the moment is a registered trade name which belongs to me and will remain inactive for some time - If I start trading with it then it will eat half of my tax free allowance for corporation tax for my existing company.

My car is taking a long time to build because it is being done painstakingly nut and bolt at a time - it has to be right. It will be badged as Samuri and will be the showcar for the company should I ever fully launch it.

Whilst we are on the owning up subject I am also trying to get chassis
HS30-00025 registered with a period plate but DVLA are not playing ball as I would hope. It is NOT the original car by a long shot but a rebuilt shell with the original number, and I mean the ORIGINAL number. There is quite some provenence talking about the car's accident, damage and subsequent shell change , eventually becoming Big Sam.

If I manage it then I will be quite clear that it is a resurrected and rebuilt identity rather than the car itself. It pisses me off when people pretend their rebuilt mock up is original.

So saying, it would be nice for the first Samuri of the new breed to bear the chassis number of Altonen's car that got smashed, reshelled and eventually became the most famous Samuri of all.

Guess I had better duck now for the ensuing tirade of abuse, cries of charlatan and finger pointing :D
 
ZHead said:
.....So saying, it would be nice for the first Samuri of the new breed to bear the chassis number of Altonen's car that got smashed, reshelled and eventually became the most famous Samuri of all.
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Congratulations.

Nice to see that you are keeping up the 'Samuri' tradition of poor spelling. I think the name of the gentleman you are referring to is 'Aaltonen'..........?

;)
 
Allow me to be the first to jump in :D

ZHead said:
I have spoken to Spike who after all IS the legend of Samuri
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er...no, if there was a legend of Samuri, it would be Win Percy.


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ZHead said:
Whilst we are on the owning up subject I am also trying to get chassis
HS30-00025 registered with a period plate but DVLA are not playing
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Are you saying this is the number of the first Big Sam before it got smashed up ??
 
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zedhead260 said:
er...no, if there was a legend of Samuri, it would be Win Percy.
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That reminds me
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ZHead said:
....Whilst we are on the owning up subject I am also trying to get chassis
HS30-00025 registered with a period plate.........
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With all due respect, "Chassis HS30-00025" is quite emphatically not what you have got though, is it? A piece of metal with that number on it is not the same as the full original chassis / unibody.

ZHead said:
.......but DVLA are not playing ball as I would hope. It is NOT the original car by a long shot but a rebuilt shell with the original number, and I mean the ORIGINAL number.
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This is a minefield isn't it? When you write "....a rebuilt shell....." you will be seen to be implying that you are replacing like-with-like ( which is one of the things that the DVLA are interested in, amongst others ) - but this also is not the case, is it? The bodies of the true Works-built 240Z rally cars were quite substantially different to those of the standard production cars - a factor which Rob Grant and subsequently Bob Gathercole and 'Samuri Conversions' put to good use. If you base the 'rebuild' on a standard production body, you are not replacing like-with-like.........

ZHead said:
There is quite some provenence talking about the car's accident, damage and subsequent shell change , eventually becoming Big Sam.
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"Provenance" is a very important word in cases like these. I think you will find that the true meaning of the word in this particular case's context proves that the car wearing that chassis number was crashed and destroyed. I believe the DVLA will be looking for you to prove that a given percentage of 'HS30-00025' exists and will be part of the "rebuilt" car. I don't know how you are going to persuade them of this.......

ZHead said:
If I manage it then I will be quite clear that it is a resurrected and rebuilt identity rather than the car itself. It pisses me off when people pretend their rebuilt mock up is original.......
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Then that begs the obvious question: Why do it?

I'm also puzzling as to which particular guise of 'HS30-00025' you would refer to when attaching the "identity" to this new car? Works 1970 RAC Rally car?, Rob Grant ETC circuit race car?, 'Big Sam' Version 1?

If none of the above, then - in my opinion, and that's all - it seems somewhat pointless to attach the "identity" or even the theoretical link of the identity of 'HS30-00025' to another car.

I think if you want to go through with this then you might like to be bouncing ideas off a few people and see what reaction you get back. You'll be needing the practice for your answers to awkward questions, I believe.

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SeanDezart said:
And in the blue corner we have.......................
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Sean,
Don't go colouring this as something it isn't. I'm interested in intelligent and informed online 'conversation' on subjects like this. I'm not interested in making wise cracks for the benefit of the peanut gallery ( although the odd giggle can't be ruled out where 'Shamuri' is concerned ;) ).

On another forum I participate in, we dubbed this kind of subject 'Carchaeology' - and it is generally agreed that it best conducted in a civil and courteous fashion.

Debate without confrontation. Something of a lost art these days.........
 
Albrecht said:
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The bodies of the true Works-built 240Z rally cars were quite substantially different to those of the standard production cars
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I have seen Kevin Bristows car in the flesh and the differences are unbelievable unless you see them you wouldn't grasp just how many there are

believe that both albrecht and kevin could write a series of books on them
 
Mr.F said:
These guys were in Chelmsford previously and were AKA as Quantum Motorsport before this. Z32 specialists (and other Japanese machinery), no links whatsoever with Samuri.
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didn't these guys also do resprays
 
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