East african safari classic rally '09

Lofty Drews (Co-driver) is a name from the past.

Nick Mason (Driver) - Pink Floyd drummer, Ferrari fanatic - same man?
 
Nigel,
At first they had a failure in the list, when I asked about it this was the answer.
> Dear Guus,
> Thank you for pointing out our mistake. The OO cars are those drivers
> who have withdrawan from the rally after having entered at first.
> I will have the names removed and the last car No. is '-.
> Kind regards,
> Surinder Thatthi

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Seems to be some discrepency between the start list and the entry list, Larry Horn does'nt appear in the start list for instance, withdrawn maybe?

I am sure Pmac can give us the low down? Perhaps the v very fast 911 was not as reliable as the slower 240 during testing:eek:
 
Hatari, who is a fellow forum member completed the 2007 east african safari rally in a Datsun 260z on his first attempt.

Not wanting to rest on his laurels, he decided to go back and tackle the event in 2009. There was a lot of deliberation about what car to take, as only pre 74 cars qualify. There are numerous 240z's and 260z's and to get one done up to serious spec is big, big money.

A mate of ours Billy had campaigned a b210 on the UK rally scene, althought it has not seen action for the last 5 years. A deal was done and a plan hatched, Billy and Hatari would tackle the world's greatest rally in a Datsun b210. Billy has almost started stripping the b210 for a rebuild, until there was a change of plan.... Lets just say that their car is the smallest, both engine capacity and physical size wise.

Their website is;

http://www.bhmotorsport.co.uk/about.php

Has lots of info about the build and gets you into the safari fever..
 

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It looks ideal. I THINK I saw this car on ebay about 3 years ago, if so Hugh Myres knew of it.

At this level it's all about reliability - a finish is so important when finance is tight.

Good Luck guys.
 
This one is a B110 Coupe.
You are right Rob. It was rallied quite effectively in the "Stars of the Future" section of the BRC by a guy I think called Phil Morton. It was also featured in Motorsport News as an unusual rally car!
The car was pretty well prepared anyway and Billy and Hatari learnt a lot running the Z on the last Safari.
Best of luck to them!
Hatari also has our old road rally B110 but there is no comparison! This car is much better.
 
This one is a B110 Coupe.
You are right Rob. It was rallied quite effectively in the "Stars of the Future" section of the BRC by a guy I think called Phil Morton. It was also featured in Motorsport News as an unusual rally car!
The car was pretty well prepared anyway and Billy and Hatari learnt a lot running the Z on the last Safari.
Best of luck to them!
Hatari also has our old road rally B110 but there is no comparison! This car is much better.

Yes, the car belonged to Phil Morton and was quite competitive in the 1400cc class when campaigned 5 years ago.

Billy fully stripped and reinforced the car and most mechanicals were overhauled. When it was purchased, the car was set up as a tarmac/gravel machine and would not have survived the first day in Kenya:eek:. The change to safari spec meant that kerb weight went up by 100kgs after the additional reinforcements went in. The suspension has also been beefed up to cope with the 2ft+ pothole that africa offers:eek: and the ride height set at max so as to accomodate the 14" wheels.

The guys are in Kenya at the moment and will start testing this week. Hopefully the initial feedback will be good as lots of hardwork, tears and money has gone into this project, which is a dream for the team.

The 1200 (b110) in coupe form has not participated in safari rally for 30+ years, so its bound to get lots of attention as it boasts the least cylinder capacity in the event [1400cc]...and the fact that its a little cute datsun

I will try and post updates as the fever builds up..:thumbs:
 
I am sure Pmac can give us the low down? Perhaps the v very fast 911 was not as reliable as the slower 240 during testing:eek:

Larry Horne has withdrawn his entry, sadly.
His withdrawal is not in any way connected to the car's reliability or its performance.:)
 
The Rally started today...well there was 1 short :eek: super special stage, which was to get the safari fever going...
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The first competition section has run and, with no parc fermé tonight, some of the competitors are back and have work to do on their cars.
Björn Waldegård was the first to arrive back at Whitesands with Iqbal Sagoo in their Porsche 911, the same car with which Sagoo did the 2007 Safari Classic and which has now been fully rebuilt by its original owner, Jiri Koteck from the Czech Republic. Said Waldegård, "The stage was a bit Mickey Mouse, too many corners and unlike the normal Safari roads, but it suited a Porsche. There is noting wrong with the car and, apart from a quick check over, it's ready to go tomorrow." Unofficial timing gives Waldegård fourth fastest time over the stage so he will start fourth on Monday morning.
Graham Alexander with his Datsun 260Z was the epitome of Australian cool as he climbed out of the car that he had just put inside the top ten times. "No problems, it all went well in there and we are looking forward to tomorrow."
Fastest man through the stage was Gerard Marcy in his green Tuthill Porsche 911 sponsored by a strong Belgian beer, Duvel. "There were some soft places in there with sand. I thought my tyres were all on very low pressures or something as there was no acceleration and no braking, but it was just the feel that surface gave. Otherwise, the car is perfect and we are happy to be starting first."
Roddy Sachs also mentioned the sandy surface and said that it was sufficiently slippery that he had been off the road - in a minor way - twice. "But the real problem was when an overhanging branch caught the master electrical cut-out switch on the rear of the bonnet of the Datsun 180B and everything just stopped. It took us a moment or two work out what had happened."
A man whose car was not suited to the tight section was Marzio Kravas in the massive Mercedes 450SLC. "It was not ideal by any means. An automatic gearbox, a big car and a sharp bend every 100 metres and it was a lot of work for little progress. Anyway, the car came through OK and we are all ready for those faster stages in the rest of the rally."
Paul-Eric Jarry in another Tuthill Porsche 911 had a steady, trouble-free run but Steve Troman in another of Tuthill's cars found it "a bit tough and I understeered off at one point which cost us a bit of time but I suspect that in the grand scheme of things, thirty seconds will not matter too much in a week's time."
Another Porsche with no problems was that of Belgian Albert Michels who commented that "it was a nice stage, almost enjoyable in a Porsche. I am looking forward to tomorrow."
One of the quickest cars through the section was the Datsun 280Z of Stefano Rocca who tied for second fastest time with Ian Duncan in the Ford Mustang. Rocca claimed that he had been "prudent of that slippy sand. I remember that I rolled in stuff like that last year in first gear so I am much more careful now. I think I have learned my lesson ! Great day, nice section, bring on tomorrow."
In the Alpine Renault camp, Charles Firmenich came in looking pleased with his steady performance. "Since they softened the suspension yesterday and dropped the tyre pressures, the car is much nicer to drive and I really enjoy it. I don't try too hard and try to be kind to the car so it is kind to me. But for Eric [Comas, the team boss and driver of the second car] it is not so good. My car was finished last and was flown out so it has all the latest transmission pieces. Eric's is still with some old parts. He broke three drive shafts testing in France and now he has broken another one now in the section." Comas eventually got his car out of the section and the Comas Racing mechanics hope to have it ready and fit for the morning.
Jean-Pierre Mondron in another Belgian Porsche 911, this one prepared by his own company Kronos Racing, winners with a Peugeot 207 and Kris Meeke of the 2009 International Rally Challenge, is benefiting from the considerable rally experience of his co-driver, Dan Erculisse. "I enjoyed that section and I feel it really suited the Porsche. But I am learning Africa, indeed I am eating quite a lot of it with all thus dust ."
The Datsun 180B of Geoff Bell was commendably fast through the section. However, he said that "the car is good, it's only the driving that is a problem. I had two minor excursions from the road and once very nearly rolled it in a tight corner. What it needs of course is another 100 bhp and we would be right there !"
One of the very few people with punctures was Jayant Shah. His Datsun 260Z had one at the rear on the driver's side but it came only a few kilometres from the end of the section and he and Lofty Drews decided to drive out of the section without changing it. "You see, it was not Lofty's side of the car so I took full responsibility. Everything else is OK and things look good for the rest of the rally."
The British pair of Nick Mason and Adrian Grinstead got out of their Datsun 240Z looking rather more travel stained than many of the others. "I don't know how it gets in but the dust is just phenomenal. These slow sections it just comes in everywhere, even round the seal on the rear hatch. We need some quicker roads and then it will be better."
Aziz Tejpar, who has lived in England now for some years and claims to be a genuine Essex man was the first Ford Escort to arrive back at Whitesands. "That was nice stage for a car like this. My usual rally car at home is a Subaru so remembering how it was to drive with just rear wheel drive is taking some time. And this was my first real experience of the car as I just drove for while on the farm roads before it was shipped. But it feels good and I think we shall stand a reasonable chance of being back here at the finish." He was delighted to learn that his efforts had put him inside the top ten.
Father and son, both in Datsuns but Dad, Jonathan Savage has a 260Z and his two sons, Quinten and Russell - Quinten is the eldest and drives - have a 180B. But this time, the son was fastest with Dad taking a rear seat in the classification by almost half a minute - but still in the top ten.
One crew that looked as if they and their mechanics were in for a long night was Jean-Louis Juchault and Steven Funk. Their Peugeot 504 Coupé had bent its rear axle during the section and they were now faced with a major intervention to straighten it and be able to carry on.
The Tuthill armada seemed to have one question mark as there was an unconfirmed report that Martin Aguirre/Luis Mirasol had encountered fuel supply problems with their Porsche 911.
With the results now in, there is confirmation that Gerard Marcy and Stephane Prevot are leading with the fastest time through the section in their Porsche with Stefano Rocca and Piers Daykin second some seventeen second behind with their Datsun 280Z and they are just one second ahead of the amazing Ian Duncan in his Ford Mustang co-driven by Amaar Slatch. Fourth is Bjorn Waldegard and Iqbal Sagoo in their Porsche 911 and the young brothers, Quinten and Russell Savage fifth with their Datsun 180B. The full results are attached and this will be the starting order for Monday morning when the rally leaves Whitesands to cover three competition sections before arriving at Taita Hills. The starting order is not precisely as per the section times as, for safety reasons, the Stewards have moved up some drivers who have encountered a problem today but are known to be fast drivers and thus it is safer not to start them behind a lot of slower cars.
 
Hatari and Billy had a mixed day..they snapped the fan belt on the datsun midway through the stage and still managed to jump 6 positions to no 35.

Hopefully tomorrow is a better day...check out pics attached, taken earlier today. [ been sent to me in pdf format, anyone know how to covert them into single jpeg files rather that 1 large pdf?]
 

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Day 2 action report- when you read the happenings, you get a small sense of what rallying in Africa is really about;)

Taita Hills, lunchtime
At the start of the Kenya Airways East African Safari Classic Rally 2009 outside the Whitesands Hotel in Mombasa this morning, event director, Surinder Thatthi, gave a classic example of multi-tasking. While instructing a marshalling team over the telephone where precisely to set up their control at the end of the first competitive section out on the Nairobi-Mombasa highway, he was also performing the role of official photographer, filming event patron, D.P.Marwaha, as the veteran Safari driver flagged away the first cars on their 4,500 km journey.
The Mombasa start had been favoured earlier in the morning by a heavy rain shower and the results were still around in the form of puddles on the road out to the first competitive section. Few of the leading drivers seemed too worried by this and many hoped that it would have laid the dust that can be such a problem when one fast car is following another on a Safari road. On the way to the Taita Hills, there was still the occasional shower but nothing likely to impede the progress of the drivers. However, rumours of wetter conditions on the roads west of Arusha that will run on Wednesday continue to persist. The Safari officials will consider the reports from the 3-day car this evening and make any decision that they deem appropriate.
The Ford Escort of Jean-Michel Martin, a past winner of the 24 Hour race at Spa, was suffering from engine problems on the classification stage yesterday and finally was not able to start the rally proper.
Taita Hills, afternoon
Light rain showers greeted the cars and crews as they checked in outside the Taita Hill Lodge. The two leaders were in first with Ian Duncan holding the privilege of leading the rally at the end of the first day with his Ford Mustang with a narrow four seconds advantage over the Porsche 911 of Björn Waldegård. One ex-Safari winner locked in close struggle with another - what more excitement could one want ? Third overall is Gerard Marcy, also Porsche 911 mounted some two and a half minutes behind the leaders. Disputing fourth place are two Datsun 260Zs with Graham Alexander from Australia holding the advantage of Britain's Steve Perez by eight seconds. Of the three competition sections run today, Duncan claimed fastest time on the first, Marcy on the second and Perez on the third.
Gerard Marcy and Stephane Prevot ht trouble on the first section when they had a rear puncture and the tyre damaged the rear damper. Consequently, they were some five minutes slower than Duncan through that stage bit with fastest time on the next and second fastest on the third section, they are still in a very strong position.
Björn Waldegård and Iqbal Sagoo had some intercom problems initially but this was rapidly traced to a flat intercom battery and the problem was permanently solved. They pulled into the Taita control with a completely flat front tyre that was almost on fire. Waldegård said "We came out of the last section and I knew we had hit and it was soft but Karl-Heinz Goldstein was there and he said that though it was soft it would be OK to get into the night halt".
Ian Duncan and Amaar Slatch, though leading the rally, gave the impression that they had been out on a Sunday drive. This laid back approach was continued in Duncan's comment that "We have had no problems and frankly been taking it pretty steady. The Mustang loved that fast section from Mackinnon Road, it just laps that up." But they did collect a puncture of the third section and arrived at the end of the section with what was left of the tyre wrapped around the rear wheel.
Steve Perez and Staffan Parmander lost a few minutes on the first section with their Datsun 240Z. "The steering felt funny and I thought that we had a recurrence of the bottom bearing problem on the front suspension that we had found in testing before the rally. So I slowed. But when we got to service and they checked it out everything was OK. I think it must have been that soft sand giving a wrong feeling. The steering in any case is much heavier that I am used to with thing like the WRC Focus or the Stratos. But now it going well and I am very pleased to have been quickest on that last stage."
Quinten Savage and his brother, Russell, reported that on the whole they had had a good day out in the sections with their Datsun 180B. "We whacked a rock in the second section which has dented the sump guard and pushed it up but that is something that the service crew can sort. Nothing serious. We also had a puncture in the first section and stopped to change it."
Geoff Bell and Tim Challen in their Datsun 180B were reasonably content to lie sixth, one place ahead of the younger Savages. "I didn't get much sleep last night. There was some guy in the room over me who was evidently doing a 1,000 miles service on his rear axle. But it been OK today apart from a couple of driver 'wrong slots', you know where he says 'turn right' and I go straight on."
Jean-Pierre Mondron and Dan Erculisse came in with their Kronos Porsche 911 looking immaculate. "We have no problem and the car is very sound. It was very fast in the second section through the sisal plantation. I was doing maybe more than 170 kph and could probably have gone faster, but, as yet, I don't know if that is a good thing."
Graham Alexander and Ross Rummels in their Datsun 260Z had a problem on the first section. "We had a bolt come out of the rear suspension and I had to drive through with one rear wheel trying to wobble to the end before us. Then on the second section, we caught Mondron's dust and followed him through to the end where we discovered that we had sheared the engine mounts. The thing is held in at the moment by straps but we hope to improve on that arrangement in the service here. Everything considered, we are delighted to be lying fourth at this early stage."
Jonathan Savage and Gavin Laurence came in with their Datsun 260Z a bit disappointed to be just outside the top ten in eleventh place. "We had a puncture on the first section, stopped to change it and an Escort came past. When we got going again, we found that he was stuck in deep sand blocking our way and both of us had to struggle to get out."
Paul-Eric Jarry and Jean-François Andreoli had a puncture on the third section through the Taita Hills with their Porsche 911. "We decided to stop and change it and found a really good place with a little bit of tarmac. It went quite well but I think we still lost almost six minutes. Without that, I think we could have two or three places higher but ninth is not so bad. The car is perfect and we look forward to the rest of the rally."
Aziz Tejpar and Andy Nagi were the ones who got their Mk1 Ford Escort stuck in the first section. "That cost us at least nine minutes. Maybe we were nervous but we then went and made two wrong slots in the sisal on section two. But that last section over the Taita Hills was just magnificent, real rallying. Can we have more please ?"
Lying in eight place is the Datsun 180B of Wayne Kieswetter and Steve Harris from South Africa. "I'm really pleased as this is only my second real rally. The first one was the Safari Classic in 2007 so you can see that I am getting used to things. No problems with the car either so we are really enjoying ourselves."
Thomas Flohr and Didier Breton in one of the Tuthill Porsche 911s came in smiling. "What can we say ? No problems with the car and we are both enjoying it."
Marzio Kravos and Renzo Bernardi came in with their big Mercedes 450SLC looking quite pleased. "The only problem that we had was that one of the drive shaft joint gaiters was leaking a bit but not enough to worry about and the service crew will change it now. But the most fantastic thing is - no punctures ! Simply wonderful."
Albert Michels and Patrick de Connick reported no problems with their Porsche 911 on the competitive sections. "Nothing went wrong so we have nothing to complain about. We are very content."
Andrew Siddall and Mike Borrissow, the British pair in a Datsun 280Z had a lot to say about their day of rallying. "I reckon we had only one good section out of four. Before the rally, we had all kinds of things starting with a leaking cylinder head gasket and then total electrical failure regarding the engine system. We had to change everything including the distributor. And then on the classification section on Sunday, she stuck in second gear for most of the way. On the first section this morning, a Minilite wheel broke and we had to stop and fit a new wheel and tyre. On the second, the fuel pump fuse broke and we had to jury rig a wire from the battery direct to the pump to get going. Finally the last section was OK except that now it seems the intercom is not working properly. We have a lot of work to do here but hopefully tomorrow - and all the all the other days - will be better."
Richard Arrowsmith and Norris Midwood in an Ian Freestone prepared Ford Escort Mk 1 were getting used to African rallying. "The car is good and we are just about getting the hang of driving in these conditions. At one point it was really like all those stories of the old Safari as we stopped to try and pull Aslam Khan out from where he was stuck in the second section. We failed but it gives an idea of what things are like. We really enjoyed the Taita Hills section which had everything to make a good rally section."
Dust was problem for Kishen Bandheri and Japsal Matharu when their Datsun 1600SSS caught up other cars on that second stage. "We had a puncture out on the main road to the start of the stage and then we went in there and straight away found ourselves in other people's dust. We got past one and then caught the Escort. But no real problems with the car."
Nick Mason and Adrian Grinstead found they were still suffering from dust on their Datsun 240Z. "Actually I made it worse. The wipers cut out on the first section and, when I dived in there to rearrange the wiring, I pulled a few grommets out of the front bulkhead. We have been running like that and the dust has been pouring in. But we carry on regardless .".
An exciting excursion was in store for Rommy Bamrah and Harvey Jutley on the second section when their Datsun 260Z went off the road. "We missed a turn and before we knew it, we were going through this barbed wire fence. Fortunately there were no big posts or anything but it was pretty frightening. To get back, we found a road parallel to the rally route inside the fence which looked as if it would bring us out but it was ages before we found a way back."
Steve Troman and Calvin Cooledge in a Tuthill Porsche 911 were pleased with their day. "We have been going steadily at our own pace and enjoying everything. The only problem we had was that, on the descent from the Taita Hills, we lost the brakes through fading. They went away for about twelve kilometres and that was a bit worrying as the drop off the edge is not small ! The car is going well and we are looking forward to the next eight days of the rally."
In the second Kronos Porsche 911, Thierry Bosqueau and Nicolas Gilsoul reported just a small problem with the upper mounts on their rear dampers. "They are just a little too weak and we must replace then with a better solution this evening. But that is the only problem we have with the car. It is the first time in Africa for us and it is amazing the variety of these sections - fast, slow, mountain, plain, rough, smooth, sandy, rocky - there is just everything all in one day. And there are more days to come !"
But it was not a good day for Roddy Sachs and Denis Matthews in their Datsun 180B. "We had two punctures at various places but the real problem came in the first section when we broke a drive shaft. I don't know where it broke because it's not around any more. But it took the brake pipe and the lower front wishbone with it. I drove out with just one-wheel power and then we found that it had damaged the differential as well. Shall we change the differential ? Well maybe not as we welded the old one up and now I have a Datsun with a live rear axle layout ! So it was a thoroughly miserable day and things can only get better."
Safari veterans both, Jayant Shah and Lofty Drews make a crew with more Safari experience than most in their Datsun 260Z. "The engine is now behaving itself but we had a puncture in the Taitas and it was a bit of a panic to remember how to change it. There have been a few problems on the co-drivers side of the car - the Halda fell off into Lofty's lap and his seat came loose - but the car goes along alright just like I remember it."
One of the smartest - i.e. least dusty - arrivals at Taita Hill Lodge were Hardev Singh Sira and Denis Giraudet in their Ford Escort Mk1, the latter immaculate in his Repsol driving overalls. "It has been a bit hard today trying to adapt from my normal Peugeot 504 Coupe which is much heavier and a little less powerful. So caution and common sense have been in my mind as I have tried to change my driving style to accommodate the difference. One thing that did catch me out was that we passed another competitor and then I was sure that someone was catching me only to discover that in fact it was the lights and dust of the car we had just passed !"
One slightly dramatic arrival at the final control was the Ford Escort of Gianluca Ciaraldi and Uwe Kurstenberger, which stopped to check the time before moving forward and then refused to start again and had to be manhandled through the control.
Michel Pucheros and Nicholas Patel in their Datsun 240Z reported that they had a good day. "Actually a very good day. We broke a TCA somewhere on the first stage but it didn't affect anything and we didn't actually discover it until we stopped in service on the main road. So pretty lucky. Hope it stays like that."
The big Citroen DS 21 of Frederic Daunat and Guy Chriqui makes an impressive sight as it goes through the sections but it not without its problems. "We broke a hydro pneumatic suspension unit on the first section, fixed it and then twenty kilometres later, blew another one. And then I nearly broke the jack trying to raise the car and replace the unit."
Jean-Marc Bussolini and Patricia Bussolini in their Porsche 924 suffered a damaged right rear suspension arm in the second section. "the car is very new, almost like a prototype - and the driver is not used to these roads so I go perhaps too fast. The first section was good but then we had this problem on the second. We also broke a front wheel. But it is a marvellous rally and we look forward to the rest of it."
The Alpine Renault A110 of Erik Comas and Ravi Soni had to miss the third section today as their car was still having problems. "I have decided that I shall continue with this car using it as a test for future events. We have the suspension expert here and we will use this car, which was our test car in France, to sort out a good solution for these roads."
Meanwhile, the sister car of Charles Firmenich and Jean-Pierre Martin continues as a full participant and the service effort will be concentrated on getting that through to the finish. They had one problem today when one of the rear bump stops failed and allowed the damper to over-stroke and break its valves. Stronger bump stops are currently being fitted in service after which the mechanics will turn their attention to preparing the A110 of Comas.
A very late arrival at Taita Hill Lodge was the Ford Escort Mk1 of Aslam Khan and Farhaaz Khan. They had taken a wrong turning on the second section and then tried to find their way back onto the correct route. Unfortunately, they came to it, mistook the direction and started going the wrong way. It was not long before they discovered the error of their ways and went to turn round whereupon the Escort suffered total electrical failure and the engine stopped. Hence they were blocking the section and facing the wrong way !
 
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