Mk3zee said:
As for the so called ‘gunnar’ I think you will find the phrase was coined by Albrecht in one of his typical but very short lived (on this thread) anti American pops at your cousins on the other side of the pond.
I didn't coin the phrase. It's been around for a long time I believe.
"Typical" anti-American pops? Me? What makes you say I'm anti-American ( prove it )?
mk3zee said:
The fact remains that if it were not for your American cousins and their love for the Z, it would not be enjoying the popularity it does today, many of your British Z’s would not exist were it not for American sourced parts.
Many of your specialist Z parts suppliers would not be in business without their source of American spares (stock and performance parts)
Look at that. Really strange. We are talking about a Japanese car here and not a SINGLE mention of Japan.
I have to say that probably 99% of my Z parts come from Japan. I probably have some parts that come VIA the USA, but I get a most of my stuff from Japan. Nissan sells genuine parts to the USA at low profit margins to suit the local economy ( just like it does in Africa, for example ). It's just economics.
USA-made parts are another thing altogether. I don't believe I have very many of them - but I certainly would have no objection to them, why would anyone if they were good quality?
Mk3zee said:
Most of the most successful British specialist cars of all time would not exist were it not for American V8’s. from the AC Cobra to the Griff 500 (probably the best sounding ‘British’ exhaust note of all time. Even two of the most exclusive contemporary British sportscars owe their motivation to American V8’s
Oh now come on! You never heard of the AC Ace? You think the Cobra would have existed without the Ace? How about the Griffith - what was that based on? No - both the examples you cite (
"most of the most successful British specialist cars of all time...."?? ) were transplants into existing chassis. Which is fine by me ( like I've been saying ) but let's keep automotive history in perspective.
Mk3zee said:
And Z’s with American V8’s are some of the most sought after and valuable Z cars in the world today, typically making between $20 and $40K at auction as opposed to mint low mileage 240Z’s that struggle to make $20K.
No, sorry. This is only true if the "World" stops at the borders of USA territory. If you want to look at the true "World" market situation then you have to include Japan. If you do that, you will see very quickly that the most sought after and valuable Z cars in the World are models such the Z432, Z432-R, 240ZG and other low-volume Factory production models. That's a plain fact with no spin on it from me.
Mk3zee said:
I also recall reading one of your own Z club Magazines from the early 80’s and remember at least 5 SBC Z/ZX V8’s representing the Z club at Santa Pod out of a field of about 10Z’s while Albrechts ZG was a rusty gunnar run as I think the ‘count’ would call it.
I'd be interested to hear what you know about my car, and the Z Club Magazine in question. Maybe a case of mistaken identity? My car was still in Japan during the
"Early 80's" - so where did you see it?
Mk3zee said:
I do not think any of your Z cars in the UK have ever been in daily use since their birth without having major surgery of the gunnar run soon variety.
What a strange comment. I'm starting to wonder exactly
what your posts are trying to prove. Surely this is a comment about the British weather and the non rust-proofing of early Japanese cars?
Ah - I get it! You're a British weather refugee, yes?
Mk3zee said:
To put it bluntly while Albrechts ZG was quietly rusting away on Mr F’s driveway, the fastest Z’s in the country were fully built Hybrids, owned by over half of the participants in the Z club drag race challenge.
As I said above, if you know anything about my car then I'm all ears. Doesn't quite sound as though you know as much about it as you think, though.
Actually, the last time I went over to Mike Feeney's place he had a car for sale that was *trying* to look like a ZG ( ha ha ha ) and with a rather interesting ( Rover? ) V8 conversion which you might be confusing with my car? Just a possibility. I won't mention anything about rust, as I'm trying to be polite.
Mk3zee said:
I also take great delight in knowing that some of the nicest examples of Z’s in the UK since the late 80’s came from the USA. Egan Yings 240, Adrian’s DJ restored Green 240, as well as Moggy’s 280Z to name but a few.
Some news for you. All those cars WERE MADE IN JAPAN. A country you have heard of, perhaps?
Mk3zee said:
Even more interestingly some of the nicest Z’s in the UK, are modified to look like their American cousins and while some would argue like their Japanese market cousins I would wager on the parts used being sourced from the US.
They'll be the ones with the vinyl eagles on the bonnet ( sorry, 'hood' ) perhaps?
Mk3zee said:
On the subject of Z descriptions (not names) that a certain non blue blooded freeloader calls himself ‘count’ just as cheesy I think as any name you could give a Z.
I agree, but "Count" is a joke at my expense ( just remove the 'o' ) in reference to one of my middle names ( Albrecht - yes, really! ). "Mk3zee" on the other hand is great.
You still have not told me what your user name on hybridz.org is, have you? Is it a secret, or are you just shy?
Have a nice day
