Hall Effect Electronic Ignition Distributor

[Aurigator]

Quick background in that I have a 1972 LHD Californian import 240Z with a 260Z engine and gearbox. Having the engine rebuilt last summer, the suggestion was to remove the old distributor and after market electronic ignition and replace with a Hall Effect Electronic Ignition Distributor. The item researched and purchased was this Kenjutsu make from Conceptua Tuning off eBay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114603480409).

My mechanic has alerted me that there are no red/black positive/negative wires, but two blue wires with male/female spur connectors. There are no instructions included with the packaging and having spoken to Conceptua, the resuult is that "Google is your friend".

Having spent some time on Google last night, there is a US expired patent for the product:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3875920A

that may help?

I've said to the mechanic that I would reach out to this forum to see if anyone has used/installed such a electronic distributor from Conceptua Tuning and perhaps point us in the right direction for installation. The problem is that the loom has been hacked from previous upgrades.

Any ideas would be welcome.

 

[jonbills]

At that price, send it back for a refund and get the 123 ignition instead.
It looks like they are 'refurbishing' stock distributors and adding something like the pertronix igniter and a large mark up.
The 123 distributor is better in many ways.

 

[jonbills]

Here:https://www.123ignitionshop.com/gb/62-datsun

 

[Aurigator]

Here:https://www.123ignitionshop.com/gb/62-datsun

Thanks. We did look at that but were a little apprehensive buying from the EU with horror stories of customs. I think we were looking at a UK supplier, but did not get any response. If we cannot find a solution to the Conceptua product, maybe we send it back as you suggest. I already have an RMA.

 

[jonbills]

I think there are UK distributors for 123Ignition - others may confirm.
Failing that, this is the sort of thing I believe Conceptua are using:
https://amzn.eu/d/hhHGvw0

 

[Aurigator]

Assuming these are the same guys (https://123ignition.com/dealers) then I ma have stumbled on a UK reseller base?

 

[jonbills]

Yes, same outfit.

 

[Aurigator]

Found these guys (https://www.southerncarbs.co.uk/page_1796358.html). Will give them a call if we cannot solve the problem. Thanks for your help.

 

[Fairlineguy]

Quick background in that I have a 1972 LHD Californian import 240Z with a 260Z engine and gearbox. Having the engine rebuilt last summer, the suggestion was to remove the old distributor and after market electronic ignition and replace with a Hall Effect Electronic Ignition Distributor. The item researched and purchased was this Kenjutsu make from Conceptua Tuning off eBay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114603480409).

My mechanic has alerted me that there are no red/black positive/negative wires, but two blue wires with male/female spur connectors. There are no instructions included with the packaging and having spoken to Conceptua, the resuult is that "Google is your friend".

Having spent some time on Google last night, there is a US expired patent for the product:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3875920A

that may help?

I've said to the mechanic that I would reach out to this forum to see if anyone has used/installed such a electronic distributor from Conceptua Tuning and perhaps point us in the right direction for installation. The problem is that the loom has been hacked from previous upgrades.

Any ideas would be welcome.

Isn’t that a stock refurbished 280z distributor which uses a separate ign control unit ?
some distributors have them screwed to the side of the distributor and some a separate control
unit .

 

[jonbills]

Isn’t that a stock refurbished 280z distributor which uses a separate ign control unit ?
some distributors have them screwed to the side of the distributor and some a separate control
unit .

Ah, looks like it. That might explain why rockauto are out of stock https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/nissan,1978,280z,2.8l+l6,1209260,ignition,distributor,7108

 

[Farmer42]

Isn’t that a stock refurbished 280z distributor which uses a separate ign control unit ?
some distributors have them screwed to the side of the distributor and some a separate control
unit .

So if it is a 280z dizzy, they have mis-sold the unit as it quite clearly says 260z and no mention of needing a module to make it work - something a 260z never had or would have.

Send it back & get a 123 unit!

 

[yellowz]

Send it back & get a 123 unit!

If you do get a 123 unit I suggest you get another cap to go on it. My recent purchase the pin fell out of the cap and the unit has now gone back to manufacturer to be checked over.
Worked well until it didn't work at all!

 

[Aurigator]

Thanks for all your replies on this. We are sending back the Conceptua Tuning distributor and we have a 123 Ignition one on order. Hopefully catch up at meet one day.