Hello from Belfast

MikeB

Well-Known Forum User
Well finally bought a 240, after a lot of searching I took AndyM's green car OKJ.

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So there'll be a few dumb questions from a Z Newbie along the way, so please bear with me :)

Generally I use my classics in various forms of motorsport, my main background being hillclimbing, which coming from Northern Ireland is all done on closed public roads. Used to do it pretty seriously with a Jedi Suzuki GSXR single seater ( 220hp pulling 290Kg) , in both the NI Championship and the occasional British event as well at the likes of Harewood, Loton Park & Doune

Here's a pic of one of our hills, Garron Point on the Antrim Coast

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Got out of single seaters in 2002 and decided to try my hand as Historics for a while. I bought a 1967 Alfa Giulia GTV, which had be professionally restored and had a lot of trick stuff on it. I'd intended to do Classic road rallies in it, Retro type events, but once I saw how good it was I decided I couldn't hurl it down a lane in the dead of night and abuse it, so it ended up as a 190hp lightweight hillclimb car and can be found running on the Midland hills today with its curent owner

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Having had fun developing it, I decided I really did want to do some rallying, so I bought a 1972 Lancia Fulvia HF 1600. It was a really brilliant little rally car, superb suspension and road holding, you could really push it on over the bumpy Irish tarmac. The events were non stage events, but had "special tests" using estate roads and farm lanes, as well as a good old Bawlz Out night road rally, great fun.

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I even did the occasional hillclimb in it, I had it tuned to Gp4 spec so it wasn't too sluggish and even made a British Championship Run Off....due to two of the top contenders breaking down in practice :)

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I generally do all my own mechanical and suspension work, I leave the welding and painting to the experts, but my skills were tested when I got tempted by a 911 !!

My friend was emigrating and had a half finished project of a 1971 911 T which came with an S spec 2.2 litre engine. It was too good a deal to miss, the rolling shell was all finished and I just had to do the engine install, so right up my street. But in the end it took 2 years to finish, and just about broke the bank and my will to live on the way. It was done as a replica of the first 911 ST rally cars, which were built to the same T chassis/S engine spec, and I finally got to give it a run at Craigantlet, before selling it on.

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So that was me up to 2010. I had a Z on my short list for the next car, but stuck to my first choice for rallying a BMW 2002tii, which seemed a good choice, but unfortunately due to the economy in Eire nearly all the Retro style rallies had stopped and have been replaced with Lanes events, which really are turning into Escort-fests and you need to take the car to stage prep standards, which I wasn't going to do with a genuine tii.

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So I've decided just to have a car for fun and the occasional sprint or hill and this time the Z seemed to fit the bill, I just love the sound of the straight 6 and am looking forward to seeing how a 240 preforms.

No doubt there will be a lot of tinkering and tweeking along the way, so as I say please bear with any newbie-daft questions :)


Cheers

Michael Beattie
 

STEVE BURNS

Club Member
Hey bud
Ben Stapley must be pulling his hair out after years of trying to get more involved in hill climbs for a few years and then the very same year he retires the Janspeed Z some one new comes along and is interested in hill climbing
Welcome aboard fella and enjoy that Z and keep us updated about progress and any events you take part in
 
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Nidge74

New Forum User
Yes indeed, weclome to ZClub.

Keep us up to date with what you do, both with the car and any events that it takes part in.
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
Love the Lancia ! And respect for the Porsche - not my favourite make.......but one of THE classic porkers to have - still understated styling.

And yes, I bet you'll have a Z-load of questions to ask. For the right look, start by getting yourself a pair of s/s wiper blade holders. :)
 

Rob Gaskin

Treasurer
Staff member
Site Administrator
Hi Mike, glad you bought that car in the end and not the one you emailed me about.

You've had some good cars there judging by your pics and comments. With that background should be able to sort your Z out for 'clubman' competition.

I look forward to your 'posts'.
 

ben240z

Club Member
Hi Mike, good to see someone else using a Z for hillclimbs.
I have gone the opposite way to you in cars by retiring the Z for a few years while I have a play in a MP72 with 5LTR rover power.
I bought the Z over to the speed weekends a couple of years and thought that life could not get much better than Kirkistown on friday, Craigantlet on saturday then Nutts corner on sunday in August.
The support I got over there was magical and I often wished I lived further north so the trip could be made more often.
Good luck with the car and keep us posted on events you are doing please.
Cheers Ben
 

MikeB

Well-Known Forum User
Ben

I assume the 72 is Andy Kittle's old chassis, then ex Tomlin etc, etc. You'll enjoy the single seaters, and be amazed how far you can push them. I remember when I dropped back to the Alfa, I suddenly realised the corners started about 100 yds sooner by the time you got it settled for turn in :)

Sean

Glad that all I need to earn your approval are some bling wipers !! I expected a few more difficult demands :p

Rob

Yes, had that moment of clarity and decided to go for the lesser risk.

Having had a look at the car over the past two days, I'm happy with what I see and the few items that need attention are well within my limited capabilities. I'll start a thread in the 240 section of what I've found and what I'm planning to do.

Now if anyone needs to know how to build a Porsche engine or strip an Alfa gearbox, I've got the scraped knuckles to answer any PMs :)

Cheers

Michael
 

RIDDLER

Well-Known Forum User
Welcome to the club too! I'm a fairly new member myself. Love the colour of your car - when I went looking for my 260, I was desperate to find one in either the deep maroon (which I bought) or that green. Enjoy it - but don't kill it on those hills!
 

status

Well-Known Forum User
Did Andy give you the copy of Classics when the car was mine,not a bad old right up,also i did a video with clarckson called Hot metal,
 

MikeB

Well-Known Forum User
Paul

Yes,I have a copy of the mag, though unfortunately not enough specifically about OKJ, just really 240s in general. Will look out for the vid. I'll get in touch later to have a chat.

Riddler, I'll not be pushing it to the edge on the hills, did that for 20 years, more out fun the craic these days so hopefully it will survive relatively unscathed :)


Cheers

Michael
 

Mr.G

Club Member
Beautiful scenery Mike on those hills, welcome to the club.

Will you be modifying her at all, there lots that can be done on the handling front that you might want to check out. Check out Arizona Z car on google, lovely bits but can get expensive!
 

ben240z

Club Member
Hi Mike yes it is the Kittle car but without the Judd
£30000 for an engine was a touch too much
Looking forward to having a play. Will be a bit different to the 500 that a friend let me have a run in.
Enjoy the Z. They are a very forgiving car to drive.Could be a bit tight through the chicane at craigantlet though
 

status

Well-Known Forum User
Just got back from walking the dogs,now its time to get the Zed out for a blast round the country lanes,thats wot they r 4
 

ben240z

Club Member
Ben

I assume the 72 is Andy Kittle's old chassis, then ex Tomlin etc, etc.

Cheers

Michael
Mike the chassis I have is the Kittle/Davidson/Toet car Chassis number 001. The Tomlin car was Moran/Merrick/Tomlin and now Hutchins in the midlands somewhere
Cheers Ben
 

MikeB

Well-Known Forum User
Ah sorry Ben I was getting confused with Andy's MP58 which he flogged to Sandra.

Whatever it'll be bloody quick :)

Cheers

Michael
 

andrew muir

Club Member
Hi Mike
Well done.
Know the car well as the previous owner also lives in Peebles and have spoken to him many times about the car.
Was resprayed and rebuilt by a freind of mine.
Nice wheels if you ever want to sell them I will take them.

Andrew Muir:)
 

RIDDLER

Well-Known Forum User
Just realised from the comments that OKJ was the 240 featured in the Classics magazine a while back. I still have a copy of it because I loved the cover picture and the pictures inside. It was before I got my car, and I kept reading it and thinking 'what a lucky bastard to own that - I want one'. It was a great article - very complimentary to the cars and great photography.
 

MikeB

Well-Known Forum User
Yes, I got a copy of the mag along with the car, luckily she still looks as good. Now the hard job is keeping it that way :)

Enjoying the extra info I'm getting on the car from all of you, please keep it coming

Cheers
Michael
 

Ian

Club Member
Good to see someone else from NI on the forum.

Would be good to see some more photos of the car.
 

MikeB

Well-Known Forum User
OK Ian

Here are some more pics taken just after I got the car,

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Since then, it's been on axle stands getting its bottom scraped and stone chipped, Lokari front arch inserts fitted, gearbox, diff and suspension off, all cleaned & painted, new springs fitted, LSD going in, K&N filters and ram pipes along with a new set of carb needles ( it seemed to have two different ones fitted). Did a mod on the gear change to stop a hydraulic lock of gear oil making the shift to 5th difficult. It was nice to find the coil-over conversion and full polybush set-up. Suspect the shocks might be Leda, but due to the strange nut on the top of the struts their true identiy has not been confirmed !! The final touch at the moment is an original Z steering wheel, which I've just finished lacquering. so I've been a busy boy :)

Hopefully back on all 4 wheels next week and then the development will continue with a trip to the rolling road to see where we are on power and fuelling.


Cheers

Michael
 
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