"Does the left hand know what the right is doing...?"

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
And so, whilst Becky and I were casually chatting during a surprise meet in some dreary international airport lounge, doing our best to hear each other over the loud rednecks sipping ice-cold Buds and wearing funny outback hats, I turned to him and asked « do you still believe that the Z was created for the US market ?" "Oh yes " replied Becky "and I’ll prove it to you, open up that bit of bedtime reading you’ve got there by Brian Long, look at page 45 – you’ll see a clay model with bumper over-riders ! Now these were only specified for the US market, no JDM spec cars had them, nor European ones either so Nissan were already planning the marketing of the S30 (240Zee as we call it) in the pre-production stage, to be more precise during the clay model building, (aided by our adopted royalty Count A.) and before any tooling manufacture" !



"That’s an interesting point of view my friend but I’m Counting upon another element – the hand-brake is always on the right of the centre console indicating that the drivers’ position was always intended to be on the right ! "



"Nonsense ! "he cried, "everybody knows how big we Americans are, just look at the leg-room (our adopted royalty Count A.) gave us – it was obviously decided to give us some more thigh-space and for us, the hand-brake is just at the right (longer) arms’ reach" "What about the steering column looking squeezed in next to the exhaust and under the carbs, looks better on the other side " I said, groping for more substantial facts. "Aha" he said, « why would Nissan want to fill up such a superb space giving access to everything that needs it – starter motor, dip-stick, plugs, wires, oil-filter etc ?" "Err" I said "do you really want to convince me that a Japanese car, made in Japan by a Japanese company was designed and produced mainly for US export ? " "Yes" he shouted triumphantly, "that’s where the money is boy – they saw it already with the Roadster – that car tested what Nissan saw as their major foreign markets at the time and 87.5% of ALL S30 buyers can’t be wrong although I’ll admit that a few got sold in other countries than the US but they were all repaying us for lend-lease and Marshall Aid so we still kept all their money J "



We parted, me bewildered, after having been a believer most of my adult life, my very existence felt punctured – could I hold my own in front of a Corvette now…..or worse, an MG ?
 

Russ

Club Member
Supposedly Mr. Beck said:
and I’ll prove it to you, open up that bit of bedtime reading you’ve got there by Brian Long, look at page 45 – you’ll see a clay model with bumper over-riders !

Pah! Tosh! Blasphemy even. I cannot see how bumper over-riders mean anything. Maybe they decided to save some cost when producing cars for the home market etc. Maybe they thought they looked ugly. Maybe they thought they thought that they needed them for the U.S. market. Maybe they worried about America's driving abilities ;)
 

Albrecht

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Bumper overriders were an extra-cost option on the Japanese home-market cars.

Here's a scan from one of the early Japanese sales catalogues, which depicts some of the options available at time of order:
 

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SeanDezart

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I'll have me one of 'em clocks :) !

Funny eh ? Most of us thought that the over-riders were justfor the US market and the rest of us got black bumper grommets..........except Count will now show us that the Z-L options list was again different and they could have chrome 'grommets' :)

No wonder the pressings were made to be as universal as possible, the production management of sooooo many options must have cost time and therefore money !

Surely this slowed up production - they were coming off just one line at the beginning weren't they (later a second factory took up ?) ?
 

ZHead

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Not at all, and that is an entirly different question / debate. What I choose to do to a car to modify it has absolutely no relevence to who designed the car, what market it was designed for and why the handbrake is where it is.

I would have been just as happy putting a Nissan V8 in.

Bit of a failed low blow Sean.
 

Tony 260Z

Club Member
Well, I don't know the ins and outs of it all, but I reckon the Japanese are pretty canny and they must have had some thoughts about where the cars would be sold and incorporated some design elements accordingly.

IMHO (and not wanting to get into a fight)
 

Mr Ex

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Albrecht talking about extras, In the 80s I had a May 72 reg 240 with a clear rear window with no heating element on , Now thats what I call being a cheapscate!
 
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