oz-ting said:
Talk about taking something too seriously.
Heaven forbid that somebody would take the subject of these cars seriously, eh?
oz-ting said:
Any car you are talking about here is worth what it is worth, either to the owner or due to its rarity or originality. I doubt very much that anyone here is intending to hoodwink others with there description of their car and if they were asked, would no doubt explain its personal evolution.
After such a long thread and many posts, it seems you have
still managed to miss the main point. Your above statement:
"..... Any car here is worth what it is worth....." simply serves to reinforce my point, as the
true value of a car cannot be established until its true
identity has been established.
If you don't understand why it can't be a good thing for a person to claim that their car is something that it is not, and for a recognised marque owners club to effectively endorse that by failing to correct it in written club-related documentation, then I have to say that I would certainly
not fancy buying something from
you.
I'm not talking about people calling their car a pet name like 'Zep', 'Zelda', or 'Cynthia', and they can give their car a name like a bloody pedigree dog for all I care ( how about 'Rothschild de Bolton a la Wigan Wanderers the Third'? ) - the point is that they should
not expect to get away with using a Factory designation such as 'ZG' unless it is completely appropriate. To do so ( and I don't care how lightheartedly it is
meant ) is to muddy the waters, and risks misleading people who might not know any better. Owners clubs should be in the front line of policing such matters amongst their members, by definition.
Let me make this a little easier for you to understand. Humour me with the subject matter here. If you wanted to buy an RS3100 Capri and saw an "RS3100 Capri" advertised, and then travelled all the way to see it only to find out that it was actually a more mundane model with aftermarket mods, then would you not feel unhappy to have been misled? What if you hadn't actually realised the difference, and had bought it? What would your attitude be then? And do you honestly think that the Capri owners club would tell you that
"it doesn't matter", or indeed say
"what's the difference anyway?"?
The plain fact is that taking it upon yourself to re-name your car with another
Factory designation is the start of the slippery slope. If you have built a replica or a lookalike then you have to mind your Ps and Qs and make it clear in all written correspondence ( and that includes internet forums and club magazines ) that it is just that; a
replica or a
lookalike.
oz-ting said:
Perhaps a ZG club might be a good idea then those owners of such who could be happy in there world without the sleepless nights wondering whether our dear old government or slightly overworked police force will be troubled by impostors. Although sharing a laugh may be hard!
Oh I don't know though. It is always possible to share a laugh by discussing the type of morons who don't seem to be able to tell the difference between sh*t and putty, and then wonder why their windows fall out.
oz-ting said:
I love cars in general and appreciate nearly all forms. The toyota 2000 GT for example another great Jap sports car. So bleeping rare that one would cost you upwards of £150,000 to get. The Audi TT a great design but so common to sight they fade in to the landscape perhaps a future classic. The early Z'ds have always been a beautifully designed car so that is why I have always enjoyed owning them.
Fascinating stuff
.
The comparison between something less than 400 Toyota 2000GTs made in the mid 1960s ,and heaven knows how many thousands of Audi TTs made forty years later is.................................. er, what exactly?
Sorry, what were we talking about again?
oz-ting said:
I am now seriously reconsidering attending the parade if this is the sort of toot that is likely to be discussed. I would simply want a good day out. If I do or don't go I hope all those true supporters of the club have a great day it should be a lot of fun.
LOL
I don't think you should worry about what sort of "toot" ( ??? ) is going to be discussed at an event that you
may or may not be attending. This might be stating the obvious ( I'll do it anyway for your benefit at least ) but has it occurred to you that you might actually be able to talk about
whatever you like at an event such as the Silverstone parade? You can steer the subject of conversation to whatever you wish, and with whomsoever you choose - should they be happy to listen, that is.
The irony of you joining in on this thread and effectively moaning about the subject of the thread being discussed at all seems to escape you. This is a FORUM. If nobody wanted to discuss the subject then they would not have made any posts on the thread. Some people have disagreed with me and some people have agreed - but even if a conclusion hasn't been reached then at least there has been some discourse
on the subject of the cars that the club represents and caters for. If you think that is a bad thing then I truly wonder
why you would re-join the club and
why you posted on this thread?
oz-ting said:
Talk about taking something too seriously.
If you don't like my response to your post, then can I suggest that you totally ignore it (
) and re-read the post by richiep immediately above yours instead. I think richiep's post perfectly illustrates a real-world example of what I'm talking about, and makes excellent points.
I don't know about
you, but
that's the type of person ( and subject ) that I'd be happy to engage in conversation anywhere. Even on an old wartime airstrip in Northamptonshire.......
