240Z - a copy.......or not ?

[Mr Ex]

"..................Also in 1967 Nissan introduced its new highly advanced four cylinder overhead cam (OHC) Nissan L engine, which while similar to Mercedes-Benz OHC designs was a totally new engine designed by Nissan. This engine powered the new Datsun 510, which gained Nissan respect in the worldwide sedan market. Then, in 1969 Nissan introduced the Datsun 240Z sports car which used a six-cylinder variation of the L series engine.............."

So Nissan 'copied' the Mercedes engine, or at least that's what some journalists have 'deciphered', made it into a four cylinder then added two cylinders to make it a six again for our Zs.

The Count told me ages ago that the 4 cyl. was derived from the 6 which is, of course, completely logical seeing that it came from the Gloria 6 in-line.

That book Steve!.............Oh and don't forget it's 2 ll's

 

[SKiddell]

That still hasnt told me which book Allen

....since when does the word "similar" (word used in the text) translate to "copied" (Seans word)

 

[SeanDezart]

I won' get involved in your and Allens' little ''discussion'' but...........since journalists started joined-up writing and Jane and John Ladybird maths have they taken 1+1 = 5 !

Z = similar in size to 911 = copy
Z = similar in layout to E-Type/MGB/GT6...... = copy

etc, etc

 

[Mr Ex]

That still hasnt told me which book Allen

....since when does the word "similar" (word used in the text) translate to "copied" (Seans word)

Allan, spell it right next time Steve or is it Stephen!
A: All the books that study the history of the Z, it seems to me that with you being a newcomer you havn't read many if any at all, books about Z's.
I can understand that as you are more likely to read books about "How to make a straight 6 the fastest N/A in the world"

 

[SeanDezart]

I can understand that as you are more likely to read books about "How to make a straight 6 the fastest N/A in the world"

'cept that THAT isn't written in books is it Steve ? Well on the way now methinks.

 

[SKiddell]

spell it right next time Steve

or what exactly.

it seems to me that with you being a newcomer you havn't read many if any at all

what has newcomer got to do with anything, I am perfectly aware of most of the mainstream books, I am asking for factual information in order to promote the conversation, rather it becoming "oh I read it somewhere" internet myths.
If we are not carefull future generation will read this and soon it becomes fact, with not actual basis in fact at all

I am asking in what book it was written .... a perfectly civil question, either provide an answer or butt out.

BTW I dont give a monkys what you call me or how you spell it, I'm not that precious......most people spell my name with 2 T's...one at the front and one at the back.

 

[Mr.F]

"Play Nice, Children"

 

[Mr Ex]

Which book is that Alan

THAT book, but I've read it more than once.

 

[SKiddell]

Thanks, that didnt take long did it

Firstly Allan, the text in the book (you have posted a picture of) is nothing like the text Sean "quoted" so where is the other "written" evidence from.

Next (from your book Allan) Since when does

Is reputed to have been based on the Mercedes "six" that the Prince company (also owned by Nissan) built under licence

(taken from the book) ever equate to "copied"

And all of it under the get out clause of "reputed"

Allan, I dont need to have been around for long to read a dictionary (I could lend you one), the words "based" and "copied" have two different meanings.

Oh and finally Sean

I won' get involved in your and Allens' little ''discussion''

you started it chap so dont run and hide now oh and dont forget to spell Allans name right, he gets touchy

"Play Nice, Children"

trust me I am.

 

[Mr Ex]

Thanks, that didnt take long did it

Firstly Allan, the text in the book (you have posted a picture of) is nothing like the text Sean "quoted" so where is the other "written" evidence from.

Next (from your book Allan) Since when does

(taken from the book) ever equate to "copied"

And all of it under the get out clause of "reputed"

Allan, I dont need to have been around for long to read a dictionary (I could lend you one), the words "based" and "copied" have two different meanings.

Oh and finally Sean you started it chap so dont run and hide now oh and dont forget to spell Allans name right, he gets touchy



trust me I am.

I know it didn't take long Steve but with you being a knowlegable chap I thought that you would have read about the Mercedes connection whether it is correct or not.

 

[SKiddell]

I do know about an alledged Mercedes "connection" I was hoping that we could get some facts on it.

 

[Mr Ex]

I do know about an alleged Mercedes "connection" I was hoping that we could get some facts on it.

Perhaps The Count can throw some light on it.

 

[SeanDezart]

Sorry chaps - been skiing down south. So why don't you ask Mr Shipway - he who wrote ''reputedly'' ?