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1971 Skyline
- Thread starter Mr.F
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datsun dave
Club Member
Don't show it to Mark Rayner or it will end up in Warrington with his other Jap toys.
Albrecht
Well-Known Forum User
Spotted from the guys who supplied my Stagea:
Works out approx. £7300 FOB, i.e. without shipping, clearance or taxes.
More pics available if you find it interesting...
Mr F,
Don't wish to be overly cynical, but this car can't be all that good if they are quoting an FOB price of £7,300 for it.
At today's exchange rate of £1 = 148 JPY that would indicate a value of 1,080,400 JPY including de-registration, transport to port of exit, all export docs etc etc, and their profit margin.............
Obviously I don't know what kind of margin they are putting on it, but even the cost of de-reg, docs and transport to RoRo dock has to account for more than 80,000 JPY - which puts the flat 'cost' of the car in Japan at under 1 million JPY. This car will have the agent's profit and the Japanese dealer's profit included in the price. Any KGC10 at less than a million Yen with the current ( 148 ) exchange rate is going to be right down at the bottom of the barrel I'm afraid. In my experience, you'd have to pay more than double that to get a car truly worth importing ( and not needing lots of work ).
And I wonder how many people have been 'fooled' by the rear overfenders and that GT-R emblem on the front grille....?
Mr.F
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Shown as "interesting", not necessarily "recommended" - the other pictures show that the car is slightly scruffy within the interior and boot. It is, however, described as restored. The engine is not shown, which is always worrying from this particular company who usually go into great photographic detail of both good and bad points - possibly the car is like the ill-fated import of a few years ago. Any prospective purchase would need a lot more research I'm sure...
As far as I can see, this one is actually with an affiliated dealer rather than being owned by Japan Auto Direct as stock.
The quoted FOB price is 1175000 yen and yesterday's Google exchange showed 161.31 yen to the £1.00.
Albrecht
Well-Known Forum User
Surely Japan Auto Direct will still want something out of it if they are involved in any way though, and that means less of the price is money in the car......
Mr.F said:
Well, the FOB price in JPY is a little bit 'better' ( i.e. higher ) than the converted price you quoted, but any KGC10 on sale in Japan at less than 1.5 million JPY is at the bottom end of the scale and for sure will need a lot of remedial work. Most of the specialists in Japan will ask upwards on 1.6 million JPY for any decent 2HT C10 these days. There's no secret to it. They need to make their margin and they can't buy a decent one in, do a little work on it and sell it on for less than that. You can buy privately for lower, but then you'd have to travel to view, transport the car to port and de-reg etc etc yourself, or pay an agent. Great risk in asking an agent to look at one of these, as nine times out of ten they won't know what they are looking at, what they should look out for, or what the car is supposed to be like anyway.
I honestly wouldn't use Google currency converter to give you an accurate real-world daily rate for an STG to JPY transfer either. You need to use the international trading rate, and today that's 148 JPY. Actually, 161.31 Yen is closer to a 'buying' rate than a selling rate, and if you are paying a a Yen cost with STG you are going to need to buy Yen with a weak STG........
Sorry to disagree with so much, but to my mind there is really no point in buying a car at the bottom of the grade in Japan with the exchange rate as it is at the moment. The weak Pound just doesn't give you enough buying power......
Mr.F
Inactive
Alan - I don't see you as disagreeing with me. The car is what it is - interesting. Not the greatest bargain in the world, but offered at that Yen price perhaps of sufficient value for someone to purchase (with all due buyer beware warnings) as something a bit different in the U.K.
I'm not an agent for Japan Auto Direct and I'm not offering the car for sale - if it promotes a bit more awareness of available stuff in Japan and allows discussion, then that's all I intend.
As you note, JAD are most certainly not experts in the classic field, but they often have oddball and interesting stuff available, plus a new muscle, hot rod and custom division in the USA. Some great cars there too. How about:
I found them to be honest and efficient in their description of my Stagea and in the shipping process.
If anyone were interested in the Skyline then follow the link to more photos:
http://www.japanautodirect.com/auto.specsheet.cfm?id=2962
and ask for details of areas you can't see. Underbonnet particularly - the description quotes 2.8 which even in my limited knowledge doesn't sound right - and also underside to see restoration work and lurking rusty bits.
I'm not an agent for Japan Auto Direct and I'm not offering the car for sale - if it promotes a bit more awareness of available stuff in Japan and allows discussion, then that's all I intend.
As you note, JAD are most certainly not experts in the classic field, but they often have oddball and interesting stuff available, plus a new muscle, hot rod and custom division in the USA. Some great cars there too. How about:
I found them to be honest and efficient in their description of my Stagea and in the shipping process.
If anyone were interested in the Skyline then follow the link to more photos:
http://www.japanautodirect.com/auto.specsheet.cfm?id=2962
and ask for details of areas you can't see. Underbonnet particularly - the description quotes 2.8 which even in my limited knowledge doesn't sound right - and also underside to see restoration work and lurking rusty bits.
Ped
Club Member
It's cool you have made your point, as with anything you get what you pay for. If it sounds a bit cheap there will be a good reason. I don't think anyone is going to spend 10 grand, or more, lightly.
Albrecht
Well-Known Forum User
.......or go direct to the site of the dealer that's actually got it:
http://www.car-arikawa.jp/ucar_list.php?p=1
....and note the asking price of 2.1 million JPY.
ZHead
Well-Known Forum User
I always find www.ft.com very useful as they have a link to their currency converter which I "assume" is updated in real time as is it the Financial Times after all
direct link : http://markets.ft.com/markets/currencies.asp?segid=70113&ftcamp=currency/home_link//tools_box/70113/
direct link : http://markets.ft.com/markets/currencies.asp?segid=70113&ftcamp=currency/home_link//tools_box/70113/