Z35 planned for 2014

nospark

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I read in the press/web that the z35 concept will go into production in 2014. It is the replacement for the 370z. Some of its styling features might hark back to the original 240z. It all seems a bit vague at the moment.

Is this an opportunity to for the zclub to now approach Nissan UK and get something out of the eventual launch of the new Z ? They get good publicity about the strong heritage of the Z in this country for over 40 years.(members cars, stories etc). We get to raise the profile and interest in the old Z's at a national level. And while they are at it perhaps Nissan could do a pressings run of new wings, bumpers etc for existing owners to give the story some added zest. :) . If you don't ask you don't get.
 
Firstly the z35 has been in the pipeline for a while, several prototype pics are circling around. What they have said is they do know what power plants will be and we should expect a more Eco friendly 4 cyl model.
Some jouneos are proclaiming a hark back to the 240, which is exactly what Nissan tried to do with the 350. Some are claiming a return to the turbo charged zx's but that's in likely.
Expect an over complex disappointment. You won't be seeing a lightweight sports car or rocket propelled super gt. I expect what you will get is a rather average Eco car attempting to look like the 370. :(

As for nissans accommodation and self promotion f it's history again don't hold your hopes too high, they have been notoriously disinterested in this sadly. I don't think they even bothered to reply in request for some acknowledgement over the 25th anniversary of the z32...

I'd love to see a proper fairlady be released a proper homage like the new Ftype a z34 style body with the twin turbo v6 that it deserved from the gtr. It won't happen though sadly.
 
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Do not like that concept - as usual, over-stylised, and all bloody wheels! I suspect the Z will continue to move away from anything remotely equatable to the original Zs. Makes me more likely to buy a GT86 tbh, if I were in the market for something new like that.
 
Why can't they make the original 240Z with modern day mechanicals and modern rust proof panels etc it would sell well imo:thumbs:
 
I might be tempted by a GT86 with a 6 cylinder engine. That would be nice.
 
Why can't they make the original 240Z with modern day mechanicals and modern rust proof panels etc it would sell well imo:thumbs:

That was what the 350/370 were supposed to be. I'm not saying they achieved it but that was essentially the aim. IMHO the fairlady tag should have been resigned in 1999. Notice the skyline tag has been dropped? The last car badged as a skyline was the g35 essentially a z33 2+2.

The nissans being produced currently are name sakes only. The r35 is a 4wd super gt with a twin turbo v6 aside from the 4wd it's more like z32 in terns of concept and market than a skyline, skylines being saloon cars with inline sixes. This is why I believe the skyline part was dropped. The r35 is a hybrid of concepts between the z32 and r34 design wise to me, they took best elements if both and produced something altogether new.

The z35 is planed to house a inline 4 with a turbo, although it will bear the fairlady namesake it's market and design is far more Silvia.

For the above reasons I'm out haha. Both fairlady and skyline died out, it should be left that way to legend not bastardised.
 
That'll be news to Nissan.

Clearly you haven't the faintest clue what you are talking about.

See your paraphrasing there. Taken away from the rest of what I'm saying that indeed makes no sense. What I'm suggesting is the current models should have been given whole new names and the fairlady name resigned. They may well have a new skyline in the pipe line but the r35 does not have skyline written in it. You may think I'm clueless but your obviously missing the point that these are my opinions. Regardless of nissans intentions.

Is there currently a zed and a skyline that stays true to their format? No I'd say not...will there be? Well making the z cheaper and less powerful, ie further and further away from the r line certainly isn't keeping the zed zedly.... And bringing out a new car badged as a skyline (which looks like an Infiniti back catalogue item in my eyes,) further supports the fact that the r35 isn't a skyline.
 
Also the more you look around the more you will see the same pictures claiming to be the new s16 z35 etc it's currently hosh, until something actually goes out as for sale it's all guesses.
 
See your paraphrasing there. Taken away from the rest of what I'm saying that indeed makes no sense. What I'm suggesting is the current models should have been given whole new names and the fairlady name resigned.

Like everyone else, I'm just reading what you're writing. Any complete sentence ought to stand up on its own. Clearly what you have written doesn't make complete sense. You do it again below.

And how do you mean "resigned"? You think they should stop using the 'Fairlady' name? Why? Big business sometimes spends years and millions trying to get brand names and product identities to 'stick'. A company like Nissan is not going to bin useful and valuable product names just because of what some of us might think.

The first car to use the 'Fairlady' name was a dinky little open-topped thing with a small four banger OHV engine in 1959. By your logic, the subsequent generations were already straying well beyond any perceived original theme, and by 1969 you can imagine anybody with the same viewpoint as yours was saying that the S30-series 'Fairlady Z' was "...not a proper Fairlady, because it's got a roof."

Me, I can't see much carry-over between generatiions anyway. Some are particularly bad in that respect: Perhaps a comparison between the S30-series Zs of 1969 and the Z32 for instance? The difference between the S30-series and S130-series was radical enough, and I could even point at huge differences in character for models in the same series.

z32bolt said:
They may well have a new skyline in the pipe line but the r35 does not have skyline written in it. You may think I'm clueless but your obviously missing the point that these are my opinions. Regardless of nissans intentions.

You seem to be confusing the R35 ( 'Nissan GT-R' ) with all the Skylines that came before it. The whole point is that Nissan have now divorced the 'GT-R' *brand* from the Skyline range, and they have done it for good reasons. It makes sense to me on several different levels.

z32bolt said:
Is there currently a zed and a skyline that stays true to their format? No I'd say not...

As pointed out above, it could be argued that they never have "stayed true to their format". If the Fairlady name started in 1959 ( 'Z' in 1969 ) and the Skyline name ( on a Prince, no less ) started in 1957, then how could they? I think it's silly to even imagine that they might try.

z32bolt said:
....will there be? Well making the z cheaper and less powerful, ie further and further away from the r line certainly isn't keeping the zed zedly.... And bringing out a new car badged as a skyline (which looks like an Infiniti back catalogue item in my eyes,) further supports the fact that the r35 isn't a skyline.

That's exactly what Nissan have been trying to do. I don't know why ( a lot of it seems to come from north America... ) but certain people seem to be under the misapprehension that the name 'Skyline' indicated some sort of firebreathing monster. In fact, 'Skyline' is no more magical than 'Cortina', 'Victor' or 'Sierra'. The fact that Nissan made some rather special Skylines over the years ( some of them wearing 'GTB, 'GT-R', 'GTS-R' emblems and the like ) doesn't change the fact that 99.99% of all Skylines were basically 'grey porridge', just like 99.99% of Cortinas, Victors and Sierras were.

'Skyline' is just a name for a group of cars in a certain perceived sector in any one period, just like 'Fairlady' is. Whole thing is a moveable feast.
 
Were obviously going to have to agree to disagree. I don't think the r35 is a skyline but it is very common to hear people refer to it as one, "The new skyline". I personally can see a fairly consistent look to all Fairlady's. Side by side though as you say a wide difference can be seen between some models. Correct me if I'm wrong but the first fairlady your referring to wasn't a fairladyZ just fairlady?

Things change that's life but once you get to a point of changing things an orange ceases to be an orange and becomes an apple if you see my point. I understand names can be expensive but I'm not a fan of reusing them for something unrelated, or when they spell a previously used name differently for example the ford Kuga just lazy.

I'm one of those people that wouldn't classify an mg Tf as an mg.
 
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