Hardened Valve Seats?

Paul Henley

Club Member
Hi All

Thought I'd post this to get confidance in some advice I've been given, I'm sure it must have been covered but can't see a thread...

I have what I believe to be a standard 240z engine that I'm planning on putting in my car. I aquired the engine about 15 years ago and was assured by the previous owner that the engine had had a "full rebuild" some years before and never installed. The engine certainly looks fresh and been cleaned and painted, but there is no detail to identify the work that had previously been carried out.

Anyway, I thought before installing that I would have a local engine repairer take a look at it and if required install a set of hardened valve seats so that I could directly fill the tank up without the hassle of having to use a lead free addidive. After explaining my requirements to the chap on the phone (incidently he has been reboring and rebuilding engines for the last 35 years and has an excellent reputation locally) he offered the following advice :-

Any engine built and supplied to the American Market after 1973 (which of course this engine was) had to have valve seats fitted to cope with unleaded petrol (gas).

Most engines with an aluminium cylinder head (again this covers my L24) had hardened valve seats fitted, and modifications were generally only required on steel heads.

In all his experiance he has never had to install hardened seats into any japanese engine and that any new seats would not be any harder than any already fitted.

As I'm not a petrol head, I'd like views from anyone else, no reason to doubt what I've been told but would like to be 100% certain before installing the engine.

Any views either way would be appreciated.

Thanks

Paul
 

tel240z

Club Member
Maybe

Hi All

Thought I'd post this to get confidance in some advice I've been given, I'm sure it must have been covered but can't see a thread...

I have what I believe to be a standard 240z engine that I'm planning on putting in my car. I aquired the engine about 15 years ago and was assured by the previous owner that the engine had had a "full rebuild" some years before and never installed. The engine certainly looks fresh and been cleaned and painted, but there is no detail to identify the work that had previously been carried out.

Anyway, I thought before installing that I would have a local engine repairer take a look at it and if required install a set of hardened valve seats so that I could directly fill the tank up without the hassle of having to use a lead free addidive. After explaining my requirements to the chap on the phone (incidently he has been reboring and rebuilding engines for the last 35 years and has an excellent reputation locally) he offered the following advice :-


Unless its an e31 or e88 head circa 1969/70 you have :unsure: you may have bronzey brass seats

Any engine built and supplied to the American Market after 1973 (which of course this engine was) had to have valve seats fitted to cope with unleaded petrol (gas).

Most engines with an aluminium cylinder head (again this covers my L24) had hardened valve seats fitted, and modifications were generally only required on steel heads.

In all his experiance he has never had to install hardened seats into any japanese engine and that any new seats would not be any harder than any already fitted.

As I'm not a petrol head, I'd like views from anyone else, no reason to doubt what I've been told but would like to be 100% certain before installing the engine.

Any views either way would be appreciated.

Thanks

Paul

Unless you have an 1970 E31/E88 head then you may have some bronze in there :unsure:
 

jonbills

Membership Secretary
Site Administrator
I had new valve seats in my E88 head last year. The bronze inlet seats were very worn. on a couple of valves there was little left.
The exhaust valves seats were steel and unworn - I believe they'd been replaced on an earlier rebuild.
For the price of a head gasket, my advice would be to have the head off and look.
 

Paul Henley

Club Member
Thanks for the replies chaps, given the very limited mileage that I'll be doing, I've decided to leave it as it is.
Paul
 
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