Win Percys Samuri 'Continuation' for sale!

JK240

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richiep

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£4,900 for a set of wheels? I hope those are magnesium as per the originals or impregnated with diamonds at that price! If they are aluminium repros as per Sean’s, then I fail to see how one gets from £725 a set to 5k...
 

Rob Gaskin

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Thanks Jonathan re CAB.

If anyone is genuinely interested in buying a Samuri (not mine) I know where one may be for sale soon.
 

Albrecht

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£4,900 for a set of wheels? I hope those are magnesium as per the originals or impregnated with diamonds at that price! If they are aluminium repros as per Sean’s, then I fail to see how one gets from £725 a set to 5k...

They appear to be M-Speed Japan's version, which are indeed aluminium, but were nothing like £4,900 for a set.

I would advise against treating the Z Story version's price as being a realistic comparison, as M-Speed Japan paid for all of the development, R&D, sampling and testing etc.
 

Mark N

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They appear to be M-Speed Japan's version, which are indeed aluminium, but were nothing like £4,900 for a set.

I would advise against treating the Z Story version's price as being a realistic comparison, as M-Speed Japan paid for all of the development, R&D, sampling and testing etc.

Are M-Speed's forged or cast?
 

Albrecht

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Forged would remove a couple of kg.

And probably stick a zero on the end of the tooling and manufacturing costs.

I think its a little bit moot to point out the weight of a Chinese aluminium 'copy' of a wheel that was originally made in Elektron magnesium, by a specialist aeronautical engineering company over 50 years ago, for a company (Nissan) which never intended them to be sold to the general public.

What mattered then was that they were strong (strong enough to win two East African Safari rallies) and what seems to matter now is that people want them to be something more than they ever were, but also to be 'cheap'.
 

JK240

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Sorry for even mentioning the wheels in passing..!

However they are really nothing to do with the OP....go start your own thread :cool:

JK
 

richiep

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They appear to be M-Speed Japan's version, which are indeed aluminium, but were nothing like £4,900 for a set.

I would advise against treating the Z Story version's price as being a realistic comparison, as M-Speed Japan paid for all of the development, R&D, sampling and testing etc.

Based on the boxes, I suspected they were Japanese, I.e. the M-Speed ones, and thus would’ve been somewhat pricier than Sean’s, but nearly 5k?

That kind of thing raises an eyebrow. And I’d say although a tangent, the wheels raise questions about what sort of judgement would be involved in pricing that Sam.
 
Based on the boxes, I suspected they were Japanese, I.e. the M-Speed ones, and thus would’ve been somewhat pricier than Sean’s, but nearly 5k?

That kind of thing raises an eyebrow. And I’d say although a tangent, the wheels raise questions about what sort of judgement would be involved in pricing that Sam.
Sorry for even mentioning the wheels in passing..!

However they are really nothing to do with the OP....go start your own thread :cool:

JK

I think it is though, there's a man on the internet, selling wheels for £5k a set, using pictures off his Ipad. What confidence would that give in buying a car or the POA type price? Especially given as someone on here written, who owns what etc when it comes to the samuri branding etc.
 
And probably stick a zero on the end of the tooling and manufacturing costs.

I think its a little bit moot to point out the weight of a Chinese aluminium 'copy' of a wheel that was originally made in Elektron magnesium, by a specialist aeronautical engineering company over 50 years ago, for a company (Nissan) which never intended them to be sold to the general public.

What mattered then was that they were strong (strong enough to win two East African Safari rallies) and what seems to matter now is that people want them to be something more than they ever were, but also to be 'cheap'.

Thats sort of where I was going, they're a heavy/strong design, however when made in magnesium as per 'period' they'd have been light also.
 
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