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Thinking of buying a Z .. Can I ask a few questions?!

Discussion in 'General' started by Robotsan, Jun 23, 2021.

  1. Tony Mc

    Tony Mc
    Z Club Member

    Hi George,
    You are welcome to come and have a nosey at my Z in a week or two. I am in sunny Salford.
    It is more or less stock and an example of what can come up on auction sites every now and again.
    Cheers
    Tony Mc
     
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  2. Robotsan

    Robotsan Well-Known Forum User

    Thanks, that's really helpful. To be honest, I prefer good quality shocks and springs rather than coilovers anyway. Too much maintenance, too easy to seize up, and none I've had have given as nice a ride - so I've come to the conclusion that unless you're spending £2k+, they're best for track cars.

    I've put a nice set of Konis with H&R springs on my M3 and it transformed it. It came with HSD coilovers, but the ride was just awful, despite not riding that low at all.
     
  3. Robotsan

    Robotsan Well-Known Forum User

    Thanks man, that's good to hear. As I've just mentioned above, I prefer dampers & springs anyway, so that sounds promising.

    Yeah it does seem that there's a huge range of directions people go with these cars. I'm more of an OEM+ kind of person. So I would probably keep the bodywork OEM, but fit wider wheels and tyres. Not the arch flares route *I don't think*. I think these cars look as good as the Aston Martins and Jags of the 70s, especially with tasteful wheels and in the dark blues or greens, or in silver.

    I realise these cars wouldn't feel what you could call quick, but I imagine they're roughly similar to my R53 Mini - that weighs about 1300kg and has about 170bhp. Plenty in something small and nimble where your arse is close to the ground. But out of interest, what are the options, and how much would you have to spend to get the 2.4, 2.6, or 2.8 pushing 180 - 200 bhp, but still N/A? I've seen some for sale which have been bored out it seems.
     
  4. Robotsan

    Robotsan Well-Known Forum User

    Hi Tony! No way, these offers are getting nearer and nearer! :) I'm in Whalley Range at the moment, but moving to Firswood soonish (where I'll have a driveway and a single garage, finally!). I've never seen a Z in Manchester or Salford, how long have you had it?

    I'd love to pop round and have a look sometime, thank you. I'll drop you a message sometime.

    Cheers!
     
  5. MCBladeRun

    MCBladeRun
    Z Club Member

    Others have a better idea than I do as, I'm not quite there with the engine. My limited knowledge on the subject of gaining more BHP with a NA engine would be to allow it to breathe better so, getting a more flowing exhaust manifold and letting the carbs have less restrictive airflow would be the start. The next things are the combustion chambers, some members have had their 2.8 litre engines bored out more and increased the stroke (I think) to push the engine to about 3.1 litres (and even 3.2). There is a lot of choice on carbs, but I believe balance is the key. If you're pushing 3.1 litres then, a standard carburettor might not be sufficient to bring its fuel requirements. I myself have the old 'round top' Hitachi SU on my 2.8 which is fine.

    There's porting the head and lots of benefits from engine modifications to get more BHP, but others can comment on this process.

    Other than that, you can lower the compression, stick throttle bodies and an aftermarket ECU in place to go the turbo route. But then the engine would need further mods to combat the pitfalls of this direction.

    These engines are pretty much bomb proof though, you'd be hard pressed to damage one.

    I was going to flair my arches, or roll them in order to fit bigger wheels etc. But after looking at how original my arches are, I decided not to. But who knows, might strip it down and find it's a cut and shut! It's been known to happen to the best of us.
     
  6. Tony Mc

    Tony Mc
    Z Club Member

    You would have had to be walking past my house to have seen my car! Had it nearly 2 years now and done about 10 miles. It is now a matter of days away from being safe to get out and enjoy.
     

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  7. Rob Gaskin

    Rob Gaskin Treasurer Staff Member Moderator

    George these cars can be quick. My trackday car was 200bhp and 1100kg with full rollcage. I remember well a Trax day at Silverstone. We had a warm up lap behind a pace car and a guy (wearing race suit and shoes) in a silver e46 M3 csl was giving it lock to lock to warm his tyres. He was a couple of cars in front of me - when the pace car pulled in I focused on him and finished a few yards behind. Bear in mind this is Silverstone Club cct with long straights. My nephew who is a big BMW fan (Alpina owner) was amazed at my old Datsun giving a CSL a run for its money.

    Anyway we need to see a picture of your M3 - I might take it in PX.;)
     
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  8. Robotsan

    Robotsan Well-Known Forum User

    Haha oh ok. As in the car is safe enough to get out in and enjoy, or something else?!
     
  9. Robotsan

    Robotsan Well-Known Forum User

    That's a mint little story! A CSL is ridiculously fast around a track like that, and not heavy either! Think they're about 1300kg from memory. And with another 150 bhp over your Z, so I wonder if you were just a faster driver?!

    Here's a few choice snaps of the M3. I imagine you'd be wanting a packet of crisps plus my M3 in exchange for your Z!
     

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  10. dcrobbo

    dcrobbo
    Z Club Member

     
  11. dcrobbo

    dcrobbo
    Z Club Member

    So was there any feedback on.


    "How much are we talking for a LHD to RHD conversion in UK, does anyone know? I also hear its pricier on a 240z as the RHD"
    dashboards are rarer?
     
  12. Jay.

    Jay.
    Z Club Member

    I was waiting for someone to bite!


    This has been discussed multiple times. The cost is hugely dependant on whether you want it to be a perfect RHD conversion (all the LHD to RHD parts swapped) or if you are just after having the steering wheel on the RHS (which requires significantly less parts, work and money). People have done it for <£2k themselves. Some people have been quoted over £10k.
     
  13. dcrobbo

    dcrobbo
    Z Club Member

    Sorry to jump in on this post and I do not wish to upset any forum user's,
    I have seen a some of the discussion when I look in the search box on the subject, but do find it hard to pin point exactly what parts you can still purchase, which suppler to use and does any one offer such a service?
     
  14. jonbills

    jonbills
    ZClub Administrator
    Moderator

    are you asking about WHD to RHD conversion specifically, or parts availability in general?
     
  15. Rob Gaskin

    Rob Gaskin Treasurer Staff Member Moderator

    Exactly - it's not easy is it. That's Datsun Z ownership.
     
  16. dcrobbo

    dcrobbo
    Z Club Member

    Basically as I have been down the route of buying a USA import and still had spend a small fortune making it road worthy for uk roads, I was never happy with it being LHD so I sold it but still miss it.
    I cant afford a RHD model so am contemplating buying another newer import 260/280Z and am trying to get my head round whats the very least I would have to do and where to source the parts to convert it to RHD. Not bothered about originality so long as it's solid and has a straight six engine .
     
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  17. Bazzateer

    Bazzateer
    Z Club Member

    Might be worth making an offer on one of the three rhd projects on the other thread on here to source all the rhd parts.
     
  18. franky

    franky Well-Known Forum User

    The dashboards are pot luck, there's some total chancers after £1000+. you see a few sell quickly at the £700ish mark.

    Do you need a RHD car? Sensible hats on, the it'll be an expensive conversion, nicely done LHD cars still sell for sensible money, some more so.
     
  19. dcrobbo

    dcrobbo
    Z Club Member

     
  20. Bazzateer

    Bazzateer
    Z Club Member

    I meant as a source for the rhd parts needed to convert a good lhd shell.
     

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