datsfun
Club Member
Sorry I wasn't asking what other marques \ models got the treatment, rather were they also "Super Samuri" ?
But your above post has clarified that only s30's were "super" , rest were plain samuri or shoo \ sukati etc.
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Sorry I wasn't asking what other marques \ models got the treatment, rather were they also "Super Samuri" ?
But your above post has clarified that only s30's were "super" , rest were plain samuri or shoo \ sukati etc.
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
I am sure that there are many others like Franky who would like to know the name of the book to learn all the alleged facts regarding the cars called Samuris in their various forms
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
Nothing 'plain' about the Samuris methinks whatever the make and model.
Steve - the book was published 9x years ago - time for anyone seriously interested to react - no ?
Steve - the book was published 9x years ago - time for anyone seriously interested to react - no ?
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
Sean why not just post up the name of the book in answer to a question that was asked quite a few posts ago
After all a lot of people are new to the Z scene and maybe they would like to read it as well as a lot of other stuff that a lot of us take for granted that they know about
After all a lot of people are new to the Z scene and maybe they would like to read it as well as a lot of other stuff that a lot of us take for granted that they know about
franky just forget about Samuris and get your car on the road!
Don't let this whole insignificant Samuri thing obscure your goal.
They are not worth worrying about.
Don't let this whole insignificant Samuri thing obscure your goal.
They are not worth worrying about.
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
You are as guilty as the rest for going off thread - if you'd like to start a new thread dedicated to Spikes' book, the ISBN of which was posted up several posts ago, we can discuss it in depth for all the oldies and newbies.
A question was asked and answered - there are only Super Samuris.
Another fact from Spike - there were only 240Zs transformed into Super Samuris - NO 260Zs or 2+2 s !
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
So does that mean that the Kevin irons built cars aren’t samuris?
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
Ah - another off-topic remark and ripe for it's own thread.
Page 229 !
Page 229 !
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
Ah - another off-topic remark and ripe for it's own thread.
Page 229 !
First off, it was a genuine question about what made a samuri and a super samuri, as I see them referred to separately. I do appreciate and like the history of the man in a shed aspect.
Secondly, the Kevin irons question is bang in subject as your comment makes the 260’s he’s done not actual samuris?
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
chrisvega
Well-Known Forum User
chrisvega
Well-Known Forum User
http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1974-datsun-260z-super-samuri
Or this one ?
£55k a lot of money to pay for something that isn't what it pupports to be n'est pas ?
Or this one ?
£55k a lot of money to pay for something that isn't what it pupports to be n'est pas ?
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
JK is the expert - not me.
I'm respecting NOT going off topic and getting grilled for it by an administrator - c'mon - pull your own teeth !
Create a topic and let's discuss but like most, it is sensitive and we all know the club doesn't like to get involved in libellous conversations.
I can't see what the problem is re 'naming' the book.
It's Samuri by Spike Anderson, published in 2009 so not yesterday although some of you seem to think this is 'new insider info' and I'd have thought that if you were enthusiasts of the make and UK ones at that, you'd have at least read it if only borrowed and not bought. The ISBN has been quoted as the fact that Mike (Moggy240 here) probably still has a copy for sale. If not, I have two, one signed which I'm keeping, the other could be for sale.
I'm respecting NOT going off topic and getting grilled for it by an administrator - c'mon - pull your own teeth !
Create a topic and let's discuss but like most, it is sensitive and we all know the club doesn't like to get involved in libellous conversations.
I can't see what the problem is re 'naming' the book.
It's Samuri by Spike Anderson, published in 2009 so not yesterday although some of you seem to think this is 'new insider info' and I'd have thought that if you were enthusiasts of the make and UK ones at that, you'd have at least read it if only borrowed and not bought. The ISBN has been quoted as the fact that Mike (Moggy240 here) probably still has a copy for sale. If not, I have two, one signed which I'm keeping, the other could be for sale.
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
There's nothing to worry about, you said no 260's etc were samuri's, I know some of the later ones were done by Kevin Iron's, mainly 260's so I asked if they were classed as samuris, if it says in the book they're not, then are they? This is news to me.
How much for the book?
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
At long last
What are you talking about new insider info
why oh why are you trying to weave mystery around everything
What do you expect new enthusiasts do, search the internet and try and find out what info is around no matter what that info is or look on a club website to be pointed in the correct direction towards correct information
Do you remember when we were all in the z scene first of all and we all believed that Geortz actually designed the Z and god knows how many years it took for the truth to come out due to some people have access to the somewhat distant Z Scene in Japan
If those people made it awkward to know about things we would still be worshipping Goertz today
Surly one of the aims of the club and its members is to help people when they are new to the marque to find out any type of history of the Fairlady range and to answer any question straight forwardly and not go all round the house otherwise they just think the club is just the same as the old classic car club format that you me and all the other earlier members of the club found so formal and intimidating that we tried to break the mould with the way our club was for its members
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
franky of course they were Samuri
If you cant get hold of a copy of the book I will let you borrow mine and let have read but hey don't expect everything stated to be facte
If you cant get hold of a copy of the book I will let you borrow mine and let have read but hey don't expect everything stated to be facte
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
I'm not weaving mystery....did you want facts or opinions ?
So what's the big deal about presenting said info as truth to new members ?
Insider info - I have none - merely quoting Spike from his book and if you've read the book Porker - why didn't you come in earlier with some choice quotes, fact or not ?
But YOU have decided what is and what isn't a Samuri - is that a ZClub official publicly taking a stand in any future legal action by someone having paid many £1000s for something unrecognised
Legal minefield for which the club frequently closes down threads which I'm trying to avoid.
I have personal opnions on the subject but they remain private.
So what's the big deal about presenting said info as truth to new members ?
Insider info - I have none - merely quoting Spike from his book and if you've read the book Porker - why didn't you come in earlier with some choice quotes, fact or not ?
But YOU have decided what is and what isn't a Samuri - is that a ZClub official publicly taking a stand in any future legal action by someone having paid many £1000s for something unrecognised
Legal minefield for which the club frequently closes down threads which I'm trying to avoid.
I have personal opnions on the subject but they remain private.
datsfun
Club Member
Looking at the flow of traffic across the net, I am afraid that seed is firmly planted. Either through ignorance or don't care and don't want to know attitude , it seems that Goertz myth is here to stay for another decade or two.
Do the owners also have the same opinion as to whether only 240's are the real deal ?