Samuri Motor Company Reborn

SeanDezart

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
Ross Scott said:
Sean's last point is a bit of a minefield as to how to provide a definitive Register of Samuri's?

However, what I can say categorically is that we cannot change the past and moving forwards any work that we do will be carefully documented and all cars we work on will be name plated and cross referenced to a data base.

Kevin and I will define what level of modifications are carried out on future cars so that it will be easy to differentiate from simple go faster mods to full blown Samuri conversions.

The easy way to do this is to start with the 350/370Z offerings and then work backwards with the 240/260/280Z offerings, where we hope to emulate what Singer has done for the 911 with 240/260/280Z Resto-Mods, but more on this at a later date.
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I and I think others would very much like to see a definitive and up to date register of previous complete Samuri cars and considering the interest and values we have seen recently, this would be a responsable action from the company and those in the know - ie, who were there at the time !

Call it an information legacy. Please, something to seriously consider and a worthy heritage to quote from time to time !

Your 'emulating Singer' comment confuses me further:confused: as Singer themselves state this : "Our customers supply a fully road legal 1989-1994 Porsche 911 Coupe or Targa for the basis of restoration and varying degrees of modification."

They undertake what is now termed 'back-dating' which is the opposite to that which we've seen in the cars offered from MZR Roadsports which are older cars upgraded to a modern state.

I'm very curious and genuinely interested to know more of this at a later date but please....don't leave it too long - this is major Z news in the Zs 50th anniversary year so spill the beans:) !

Have you plans to attend any birthday Z events this year with a or more Zs ?

Cheers.
 
Alphabettispaghetti

Alphabettispaghetti

Club Member
Ross Scott said:
Like I said you are stepping into a minefield, with those questions. We are Samuri and have been since the mid 80's. We know there are others like Fourways, MZR, Dave Jarman Racing, Will Galliers, The Z Farm etc they are and along with anyone else on the scene all competitors in the market. We will do what we do best and look forward always with the intention of doing the right thing and being transparent in our dealings. People in the know will be savvy enough to know who we are and our pedigree. Kevin has 3 Championships to his name in Samuri prepared Race Cars, I think that speaks for itself and even eclipses the early exploits of Samuri before we were involved. No one can dispute this as it is factual.

We will not be charging people for certificates in gold leafed frames, we will generate our revenues from the quality work we perform and each car we work on will be plated to record the work done.
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You said....

"The history speaks for itself, we are the foremost S30 specialists, we are re-establishing what we did in the 80's with Spike and continued after he retired to Spain. As I said to Sean the Supercars trading we do is another of our activities apart from Z's."

do you really see that list above as the foremost s30 specialists? you've got Fourways and MZR(do they know that you're using thier images?).

What you have cleared up is that is basically a totally new venture, with anything from this point being what you're doing, ignoring the smoke of the past?

Could you fill in some of the previous questions?
 
STEVE BURNS

STEVE BURNS

Club Member
SeanDezart said:
I and I think others would very much like to see a definitive and up to date register of previous complete Samuri cars and considering the interest and values we have seen recently, this would be a responsable action from the company and those in the know - ie, who were there at the time !

Call it an information legacy. Please, something to seriously consider and a worthy heritage to quote from time to time !

Cheers.
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Which is something that is missing from the rather misleading current register

And to those involved with this venture I wish you all the best in your efforts and you manage to go some way to get the true appreciation of what was done previously even though a certain person for some reason has continually tried to rewrite previous events
 
Ross Scott

Ross Scott

Roscoe
Resto-Mods take various shapes and sizes. Singer and MZR are two of many out there. The exact formula we will follow will be shared at the appropriate juncture. I agree in todays world of increasing values for Classic Cars, it would be advantageous to compile a definitive listing of all genuine Samuri Cars rather than leave it to speculation, personal likes/dislikes and propaganda. I for one always look at the glass being half full rather than half empty. However, the realist in me also knows that any positivity will always be balanced by a degree of negativity and healthy skepticism. We will in our endeavours try to set the record straight as we grow. This is a new beginning for the "old" Samuri. The Companies House link you have supplied refers to a speculative listing in 2014, which post dates our original listing with Companies House Scotland. You will have to pay the princely sum of one GBP to access these records! Rest assured that Kevin and I will make our presence felt at events this year and in the future in the 50th Anniversary year. Thank you Steve for your words of encouragement. The truth will out eventually.

Roscoe
 
Ross Scott

Ross Scott

Roscoe
franky said:
So you're not one of the current foremost specialists then? Ie, Fourways or MZR? However you'd like to be held in that regard one day?

Given all the issues around the samuri name, you've got a job just to sort out what is a samuri or not. Also will cars now be known as samuri conversions and samuri motor company? so two different 'suppliers'.

How does it work with the Kevin Irons cars that 'spike' wouldn't call samuris? are they now going to get retrospective certificates supplied in a gold leaf frame?

you've also got to compete with Samuri LTD.... its not comparing apples with apples.

Why do you have MZR images in your gallery?

what was the 'supercar trading' company called before you incorporated in December?
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Rob Gaskin

Rob Gaskin

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Good luck guys, I have emailed Kevin who I consider a friend. When building my track day car he was a big help and his engine builder John did me proud.

If you are entering the 'high end' please consider the guy who owns one of these great cars but hasn't got the knowledge or Porsche money to develop it. Simple cheap kits may be an option like the original. I do realise that times have changed and prices, expectations have risen.
 
Ross Scott

Ross Scott

Roscoe
Franky, let me try and answer your questions as best I can from my perspective,

We are current, the name was incorporated in December 2018 however between the mid 80's and 2004 we did operate as Samuri Conversions Limited, registered with Companies House in Scotland. We are not competing with Samuri Conversions Limited 2014, which is a dormant Company that to the best of my knowledge is not actually trading.

Let's just say that Kevin and Spike have a different view on the facts and just because it is written in a book does not establish it as factual. I would like to rise above this conjecture and give credence to the actual owners of the cars and a commitment from Samuri that we will work with the owners to establish an accurate overall register that is based upon sound provenance, e.g. documentation, photo's receipt or other supporting documentation. This is in everyone's interests to get right and we will but it is not a 5 minute exercise.

As far as the images in the gallery are concerned we have used widely publicized gallery images of Big Sam and FFA 196L. The rest of the pages are of Kevin's works Samuri racers, i.e. our cars. If you can point out to me what images you believe belong to MZR I will be happy to validate this?

The Supercar trading was undertaken by me personally with Kevin's assistance, which can easily be validated by the Companies listed that we have sold to.

I hope that I haven't missed any of your queries?

Roscoe.
 
Ross Scott

Ross Scott

Roscoe
Rob Gaskin said:
Good luck guys, I have emailed Kevin who I consider a friend. When building my track day car he was a big help and his engine builder John did me proud.

If you are entering the 'high end' please consider the guy who owns one of these great cars but hasn't got the knowledge or Porsche money to develop it. Simple cheap kits may be an option like the original. I do realise that times have changed and prices, expectations have risen.
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Thanks Rob, Kevin speaks very highly of you, our ethos will always be to cater for all budgets. I will never forget my experience when dealing with Neil Bainbridge Racing near Aylesbury for my Career RS back in the day, it didn't matter whether you spent 5 pounds or 5,000 pounds with Neil all his Customers were treated the same and that's the way it should be. Samuri will continue to have this mindset. Thank you for your kind support.

Best regards,

Roscoe.
 
SeanDezart

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
I concur with Rob in the interest of off-the-shelf performance parts kits being made available, most have to be bought in from the States and/or Japan which immdeiately becomes expensive in shipping and possible customs duties.....and Brexit won't make imports any less expensive ! Your potentiel export ma
 
I

istoo

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nice to see some historical connection being reignited, UK orientated ambition, good for you.

better to have tried and failed than never tried at all.




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