DarrenM
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Very nice Safari Gold, already over $43,000 with 6 days to go.
Very nice Safari Gold, already over $43,000 with 6 days to go.
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Safari Gold on Bring a Trailer.
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SeanDezart
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I'm amazed, nice car but not original, a survivor but a restoration. Are those wheels period ? And that exhaust isn't stock - they were never supplied with cherry bombs under the gearbox.
uk66fastback
Club Member
Whatever it is described as, original or not, it's beautiful. The in-colour Darren!!
DarrenM
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I dont recall seeing ‘6 slot’, slot mags before, they don’t look quite right to me!
SeanDezart
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Yeah but Mike....it's still the dumbed-down USA market spec...no Darren, they look odd to me too, deffo not my choice of after-market wheels.
uk66fastback
Club Member
It’s their home-market car Sean. Do you think US owners know the spec of other Zs that went to other countries? Do they care? Did I think ALL Zs were the same worldwide when I bought mine from the US? Never even crossed my mind! Do I feel I’m missing out now I know differently? Not at all!
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
Yeah, ignorance is bliss
So yours is still USA spec ? And if so, you don't feel that you're missing out ?
So yours is still USA spec ? And if so, you don't feel that you're missing out ?
uk66fastback
Club Member
Not in the slightest. I just think myself fortunate to own ANY Z.
SeanDezart
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So, is it stock USA mech spec ?
How many other Zs have you driven ?
How many other Zs have you driven ?
uk66fastback
Club Member
None. It's not all about the driving for me Sean ...
DarrenM
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So, I’m not that well up on the specs, but gather the US cars had a 4 speed and different lighting, I am wondering what other differences there are?
Saw this on FB, the price is already pretty insane. Will be interesting to see how much higher she goes!
Each to their own I only really know the difference between stock US setup and a modified one and well lets just say I'm horrified by the capability differences! (Drove a UK 260Z +2 once as well)
How long have you got?
Gearbox, differential ratio, suspension shocks/springs, anti roll bars, emissions gear, bumpers are probably the most notable. They drive like completely different cars!
Each to their own
I only really know the difference between stock US setup and a modified one and well lets just say I'm horrified by the capability differences! (Drove a UK 260Z +2 once as well)How long have you got?
Gearbox, differential ratio, suspension shocks/springs, anti roll bars, emissions gear, bumpers are probably the most notable. They drive like completely different cars!
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
For me, owning a sportscar (or in fact any car) is ALL about driving but each to their own.
I've driven a 100% stock and early 1970 USA 240Z which was a priviledge but not a pleasure.
datsfun
Club Member
Care to elaborate why it didn't stir your emotions and meet your driving expectations ?
SeanDezart
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Suspension soft and 'rubbery' (and I don't mean loverly in Japanese), brakes needed some anticipation, steering didn't feel like rack and pinion, rear end was 'light' - took ages to rev up before changing and then 4th was way, way too far away...just convinced me that I could never own and enjoy a stock Z unless it was :
a) European or
b) Improved
and that goes for all models up until a late 280Z I drove - felt exactly the same except heavier and the doors closed with a more reassuirng clunk rather than clinkety !
a) European or
b) Improved
and that goes for all models up until a late 280Z I drove - felt exactly the same except heavier and the doors closed with a more reassuirng clunk rather than clinkety !
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SeanDezart
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For a laugh and nothing meant by or intended - just the same price :
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C893670
Being sold by a right irnorant wombat
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C893670
Being sold by a right irnorant wombat
uk66fastback
Club Member
Gimme the Sahara one any time over that one Sean! There's no doubt there are many areas of a Z that can be improved - but so what? And where do you stop?
I don't particularly want to drive a '70s sports car that is trying to have all the improvements you'd find if the thing was built 30 years later. What's wrong with driving on 195 tyres and original suspension and only the one ARB? Nothing that I can see! You're looking at it from a 2018 perspective Sean, I want to drive the car that the original owner drove in 1972 ...
Anyway, thread drift or what!
Car currently at $44,000 ...
I don't particularly want to drive a '70s sports car that is trying to have all the improvements you'd find if the thing was built 30 years later. What's wrong with driving on 195 tyres and original suspension and only the one ARB? Nothing that I can see! You're looking at it from a 2018 perspective Sean, I want to drive the car that the original owner drove in 1972 ...
Anyway, thread drift or what!
Car currently at $44,000 ...
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SeanDezart
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I'd also have the Safari one Mike - the other one looks bodged anyway and doesn't even mention what diff and maybe doesn't have a rear ARB !
Having modified some, I now know where to stop ! ...what surprises me are people coming on here saying that they 'must' have at least 300brake having never driven one at all.
No, I'm not looking at it from a 2018 perspective - the proof is that I was quoting a Euro-specced car which, stock, would have had 175 tyres. I won't bore you with the stock euro spec - you know that already and I'm not knocking your personal choice....just that it's not MY idea of why I want to own a sportscar.
The car I drove was nice, a collectors' piece but it wouldn't give me that smile factor I want from my special weekend car.
Let's agree to differ - "vive la différence" and all that.
SacCyclone
Club Member
For those that are questioning the wheels on the BAT Safari Gold car, they look strange because they are "new" 15" slot mags. Trying to keep with the older slot look but with the availability of more sizes in 15". I totally agree that 15" slots do not look correct on a Z car.
As for US spec vs European spec cars, most of us in the states did not know that there was a European spec Z car, only that there was a Japanese Market cars which were RHD.
It was only really after I joined this forum that I learned of the differences, and I have driven Z cars back to 1976 when my pops bought his first 280. Of course many US cars were modified over the years for handling and performance. Thus the reason there are very few factory stock Zeds left in the states.
I am following the BAT zed closely as I also have a Safari Gold series 1 car.
Mike and I have been discussing the car privately, I think it will cross $50K easily and end up around $55K. But I could be wrong. LOL
As for US spec vs European spec cars, most of us in the states did not know that there was a European spec Z car, only that there was a Japanese Market cars which were RHD.
It was only really after I joined this forum that I learned of the differences, and I have driven Z cars back to 1976 when my pops bought his first 280. Of course many US cars were modified over the years for handling and performance. Thus the reason there are very few factory stock Zeds left in the states.
I am following the BAT zed closely as I also have a Safari Gold series 1 car.
Mike and I have been discussing the car privately, I think it will cross $50K easily and end up around $55K. But I could be wrong. LOL
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
Hey, no worries - up until 12years ago we never called them S30s but by their export-marketing names.
Alan ought to feel some satisfaction.
Alan ought to feel some satisfaction.