Oh Jeremy !!!!!

tel240z

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Well now he's sacked :smash: and the facts are out good job he's been f#cked off probably won't make any difference to him anyway put aside who he is what he is just think what would have happened if Oisin had smacked dick head in the mouth :eek: probably still be in a cell now , think about it your son or daughter is a producer and Clarkson turns up 2 hours later just to stay in the pub and gives them a punch in the head because theres no hot meal for him ...... yeah right


unless this has all been planned :unsure:
 

AliK

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I truly hope the Police prosecute him for ABH. His celebrity status show not be a reason for him to get away with violent behaviour.
 

morbias

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Is it good that he's been sacked? I'm not so sure, on paper it looks like the 'right' decision but who exactly is coming out of this a winner?

Clarkson can take his pick from whichever network gives him an offer and will probably end up being paid more money than he was at the BBC.

The producer goes back to his job on a show which doesn't currently exist and will likely only ever be a shadow of what it was regardless of who they find to present it.

The fans lose their show and the BBC coffers are down £50m a year.

On top of that, the way it's been handled makes the BBC middle management look like a total bunch of wallies.
 

tel240z

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Is it good that he's been sacked? I'm not so sure, on paper it looks like the 'right' decision but who exactly is coming out of this a winner?

Clarkson can take his pick from whichever network gives him an offer and will probably end up being paid more money than he was at the BBC.

The producer goes back to his job on a show which doesn't currently exist and will likely only ever be a shadow of what it was regardless of who they find to present it.

The fans lose their show and the BBC coffers are down £50m a year.

On top of that, the way it's been handled makes the BBC middle management look like a total bunch of wallies.


Hmm so what would you have done then :confused: bearing in mind his past 10 years of escalated comments leading to physical abuse on a nobody
 

johnymd

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IMO top gear was going downhill anyway. I used to be in hysteric's for a large part of the show but lately found it pretty disappointing so maybe it was time for the trio work for another channel. I still love the specials and can watch them over and over again yet still laugh the whole way through. There was no other comedy entertainment show like it and probable never will be. I also liked the car related bits they squeezed in every now and then.
 

morbias

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Hmm so what would you have done then :confused: bearing in mind his past 10 years of escalated comments leading to physical abuse on a nobody

I don't think there's an easy answer to that! Sacking Clarkson pacifies all those baying for blood but actually he comes out a winner while everyone else loses.

But what I wouldn't have done is immediately announce to the world that the last episodes of the series aren't going to be shown and that Clarkson is suspended, and then spend two weeks doing who knows what before coming to a decision.

Why not bring all those involved into HQ to find out what went on in an internal investigation, and then come to a conclusion first?

I'm not saying the result of it all would have been different but it seems to me that the BBC seized upon the opportunity to show how open and transparent they are when investigating their own presenters now, and decided to sensationalise the whole thing.

What could have been dealt with in an afternoon instead took two weeks and makes them look like they don't know what they're doing.
 

STEVE BURNS

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I am on a final warning where I am employed so I think it will be OK to have a session get p!ssed while I am looking at a helicopter for a couple of hours supplied by my employer to transport me to my hotel only to find the Kitchen is closed and then berated someone by calling him an Irish (unt and then slap him in the mouth because I can not get a hot meal as I arrived to late
 

RIDDLER

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Bet all those hundreds of thousands who signed the petition backing him while knowing very little of the facts about what happened are now feeling a bit silly.
 

SKiddell

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Employment law states that the workplace must be considered safe from bullying and harrasment (including physical abuse), the employer has a duty of care to provide this, so no matter what, when a collegue acts like this then there is only one course of action..........however (not defending Clarkson in any way at all) if the act was provoked or the other person escalated it in any form (I.E didnt just walk away) then the other person should have diciplinary action taken against them as well. Just being Devils advocate.
 

johnymd

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We are all making comments based on the information fed to us by the media.

The media never lie and always provide the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth in a totally impartial way and never twist it to improve the story.

We don't know the circumstances as we were not there. We are commenting based on the above sentence being true.
 

RIDDLER

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We are all making comments based on the information fed to us by the media.

The media never lie and always provide the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth in a totally impartial way and never twist it to improve the story.

We don't know the circumstances as we were not there. We are commenting based on the above sentence being true.
But the BBC know. And that's why they have acted - correctly in my opinion. It is probably going to cost them a lot of money but they have done the right thing.
 

grahamjc

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Oddly, I have a friend that was assaulted on the tube about 18 months ago. Was prosecuted and was given 200 hours of community service and it went on his file. For Clarkson, maybe it should have been similar, hand the case to the police and allow them to do the punishing........ public apology, fine, community service.
 

morbias

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Sacking a man worth over £30m isn't much of a punishment and technically they're not even sacking him, they're just not going to give him a new contract. They're still going to pay him until the end of this one, after which he'll move on to bigger and better things.

Then on the other hand you have the victim who, thanks to the BBC blowing the whole thing wide open , was thrust into the spotlight and is now also getting abuse from idiots on the Internet. Well done BBC for 'helping' the poor guy out...

Personally I still don't see that this was the right way to handle things.

At least make the punishment meaningful in some way if you're going to throw the victim in front of a train in the process.
 

andrew muir

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The right thing to do was to not go public!! The BBC could then deal with Carkson as they see fit.
The BBC have by going public have put themselves into a poor situation.
Not much brain power down at the Beeb.
In fact I think the persons responsible for leaking or allowing public access to an entirely internal matter should get their books as well!!
Lets face it they are going to cost the Beeb an awfull lot of money.
 

SeanDezart

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For Clarkson, maybe it should have been similar, hand the case to the police and allow them to do the punishing........ public apology, fine, community service.

Agreed (and also with you Skiddy) - the mans' arrogance is out of proportion to his abilities and being brought down a peg or three would have probably done him some good too AND given a very public message that violence is not to be tolerated - 'he stared it and he was asking for it' are not excuses.

Same principle should be applied here : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...deaux-claims-France-doesn-t-deserve-club.html

'I was speaking at the height of my anger and everyone knows that at times like these you can say things you don't mean. I apologise if people have felt offended.'

IF people were offended - that's not an apology.

"at times like these you can say things you don't mean" like Clarksen who also does things he doesn't mean.

These people are where they are courtesy of us and we should expect them to set an example especially to those easily influenced ie our young.

I know I sound like an old git but with kids of 7 and 10, I do my bloody best to bring them up correctly and to respect others and then these tossers get emotional but it's alright - they're famous and worth something.
 

RIDDLER

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The right thing to do was to not go public!! The BBC could then deal with Carkson as they see fit.
The BBC have by going public have put themselves into a poor situation.
Not much brain power down at the Beeb.
In fact I think the persons responsible for leaking or allowing public access to an entirely internal matter should get their books as well!!
Lets face it they are going to cost the Beeb an awfull lot of money.
The problem is, Andrew, that Clarkson is a huge public figure and the BBC is funded by public money. That's why these things have to be dealt with in the public eye.
 

Gio

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The whole thing was setup by Clarkson and his political poshboy chums who have (and have for years) an anti-BBC bias. This was a situation the BBC could not win. They had only the following options
1) refuse to accept Clarkson's reporting himself to the BBC (remember, it was JC who officially informed the BBC) = JC or someone going public with "BBC tried to hush this up".
2) accept the report and hush it up = someone flaying the Beeb alive with "have these media suits not learned since Savile"
3) accept the report, investigate it and give JC slap on wrist. Can't do that since his "n*gger" episode, he has been on a very public last warning - and this would have presented as "BBC fails public duty" or "toothless BBC can't control stars"
4) treat it as any "violence in the workplace" incident - by the book which they have done and had JC's policital chums whip up that million petition and get a host of sheeplike drones following the anti-BBC line.
All this is quite apart from what you think of arrogant gits who think they're important. He's a journo and TV presenter and that's it.
If you think this is in part prompted by the fact we know JC is an anti-Z opinionated queef, ignores facts when trying to slag off Zs and also that they've taken the clip of me being faster than Clarkson in my old 300ZX TT off YouTube for copyright reasons, you'd probably be right!
 

SeanDezart

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What the situation needs is for the public to become tired oh him, get turned off and he just sulk in his mansion finally out of the public eye.

I met him at the NEC in 1992 on our stand with red Z32s and stock 240Z (thanks Kevin Kay) and mentioned our Goodwood meeting (Classic Japanese Sportscar Weekend) to which he retorted ''must have been the worlds worst attended event''.
Looking at the Japanese car scene, magazines in the newsagents and certain prices retained in auction for various classic cars, oh boy was he wrong !

French expression : only an idiot (and that's the polite version) doesn't change his mind (when faced with facts).
 
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