North American vintage z car auction

SeanDezart

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I believe all this begins to take on some 'meaning' all out of proportion when the cars are bought with no longer the intention to use them for their original purpose ie driving ! If, as we've seen people nit-pick because a rubber band is not on straight or the tunnel vinyl is not skin-tight.....we're simply not getting out there enough and enjoying these cars.
 

SeanDezart

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Alan - nitpicking is now a frowned upon exercise here....all happy-slappy (like those Disney penguins), remember ?
 

Pete

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Yes. With a nitpick. So you were nitpicking.
No, "
nitpicking
noun [ U ] informal disapproving uk /ˈnɪtˌpɪk.ɪŋ/ us /ˈnɪtˌpɪk.ɪŋ/
attention to details that are not important, especially as a way of criticizing: "

I neither approve or disapprove of the squint bumper, I am in no way using the squint bumper as a way of criticising the car or deeming it an important feature of the car. I gave a factual answer to a question, that's not nitpicking.
 

Pete

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I believe all this begins to take on some 'meaning' all out of proportion when the cars are bought with no longer the intention to use them for their original purpose ie driving ! If, as we've seen people nit-pick because a rubber band is not on straight or the tunnel vinyl is not skin-tight.....we're simply not getting out there enough and enjoying these cars.
I'll have to check when I get home but i think I've done about 30K miles in 4/5 years.
 

Albrecht

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I believe all this begins to take on some 'meaning' all out of proportion when the cars are bought with no longer the intention to use them for their original purpose ie driving ! If, as we've seen people nit-pick because a rubber band is not on straight or the tunnel vinyl is not skin-tight.....we're simply not getting out there enough and enjoying these cars.

As I've pointed out, we could probably pick up 'faults' - or Things To Do - for any given car. For me the key point is linked to understanding what is 'correct' (a nebulous idea at the best of times) and how the cars were when they left the factory.

For example, on the 'Franklin Mint' car discussion there was a guy who was convinced that the car would have been fitted with a Hitachi battery when it left the factory. I, and others, pointed out that it was much more likely to have been a YUASA battery. Opinion was divided, but only among those who gave a sh*t. The car in question was no longer fitted with either.
 

Albrecht

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No, "
nitpicking
noun [ U ] informal disapproving uk /ˈnɪtˌpɪk.ɪŋ/ us /ˈnɪtˌpɪk.ɪŋ/
attention to details that are not important, especially as a way of criticizing: "

I neither approve or disapprove of the squint bumper, I am in no way using the squint bumper as a way of criticising the car or deeming it an important feature of the car. I gave a factual answer to a question, that's not nitpicking.

Please post better evidence to support your assertion that the bumper is "squint".

Whatever that means...
 

chrisvega

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Looks like I've got all day as well.
Although I thought Pete was probably meaning 'squiff', it is apparently correct use of 'Scottish' language - see 3. below.

btw - impressive mileage racked up in your Z Pete, plenty more of us use our cars as well.
Sean is just conveniently forgetting that as he and Franky vie for the honour of longest resto. ever :rofl:

noun

  1. 1.
    a permanent deviation in the direction of the gaze of one eye.
    "I had a bad squint"
    synonyms: cross-eyes; More

  2. 2.
    INFORMAL
    a quick or casual look.
    "let me have a squint"
    synonyms: look, glance, peep, peek, glimpse; More


adjective
SCOTTISH
  1. 1.
    not straight or level.
    "the squint bottom edge of the puzzle"
 

Pete

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Looks like I've got all day as well.
Although I thought Pete was probably meaning 'squiff', it is apparently correct use of 'Scottish' language - see 3. below.

btw - impressive mileage racked up in your Z Pete, plenty more of us use our cars as well.
Sean is just conveniently forgetting that as he and Franky vie for the honour of longest resto. ever :rofl:

noun

  1. 1.
    a permanent deviation in the direction of the gaze of one eye.
    "I had a bad squint"
    synonyms: cross-eyes; More

  2. 2.
    INFORMAL
    a quick or casual look.
    "let me have a squint"
    synonyms: look, glance, peep, peek, glimpse; More

adjective
SCOTTISH
  1. 1.
    not straight or level.
    "the squint bottom edge of the puzzle"
Oh, is it the Scottishism that's causing the confusion?
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
Pete : you'll not be Scottish soon but European. The 'spot-on' has an 'orrible bolt where the rubber strip should be - yuk !

Alan : 'correct' is a strange term from someone who's modified almost every Z he's owned...which always makes me laugh when you're tagged a 'purist' :D

Chris : there is a difference, I didn't change my mind a half-dozen times during the build and at least when mine will run, it'll outperform your turbo in reliability and economy if nothing else.....

Going back to the car - I wouldn't spend $60k on a wobbly-suspensioned, 4spd : they must be looney tuned:rolleyes:

Finally Mr McEnroe, the rubber was squished, squinted, bent upwards at an exciting angle.o_O
 

Albrecht

Well-Known Forum User
Alan : 'correct' is a strange term from someone who's modified almost every Z he's owned...which always makes me laugh when you're tagged a 'purist' :D

As I've stated - it seems like a thousand times now - I have no problem with modifications, customisation, hot-rodding, retro-modding, resto-modding or whatever we want to classify it as this week. I grew up with that stuff. I don't think any car of mine has ever been totally stock and that's the way I like it.

What I'm talking about when I say 'correct' is about understanding our base lines, our datum points. It's useful to know how the cars were when they left the factory so that we can better judge our starting or finishing points. If people are going to try to attain an 'ex-Factory' level of detail (some do, and the 'Vintage Z Program' car now being auctioned on BaT is being compared to that) then some of us might find it interesting to study and try to understand the reference points for model variant and production date.
 
I think with this car we have to compare it to the VZ program cars. It seems they're not all the same? Fit and finish not the same. Not 'factory' finished.

Its funny how some judge it as a "holy grail" car and shoot down any reference to actual factory cars higher up the food chain.
 
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